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"Opinion's wanted Please!"

Hypoboa1 Oct 20, 2004 04:50 PM

Ok,I have a few question's to ask here so please bare with me!!Today was cleaning day,I put my 100% het for albino male in with the new female long enough to clean his tank!An well for being a late 2003 baby, He's a year old,That did'nt seem to bother him though!He started courting!I know she is old enough an long enough,but weight wize,can she be hurt?An on top of that,"This is the male het with the solid black tail,That I am speaking of",Is he old enough,or is he just going threw the motion's getting ready for next season,lol!I have been told by a local vet,That a female boa is an amzing creature"quote"An that,I should'nt worry about it!Well you all know me I am worried about it cause I know she don't weigh no 10 lbs.I took him out but,I just wandered is this vet right about the female boa being able to handle alot more than we give them credit for?1 other person said this also!Do I need to dig deeper in my knowledge goal that I am trying to reach?Well any an all help with these question's will be greatly appriciated,Thanks Eric[Hypoboa]

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snakepimp Oct 20, 2004 05:39 PM

My opinion is based on the experience of a very well established breeder who shall go nameless lest I misquote him. He said he loses a young female just about every year, when he breeds them young, even at 10 lbs. Now, we are talking about a BUNCH of animals in this guy's collection, and very generally I am amazed by the resiliency of animals, but I had a young Crested Gecko die of Hypocalcemia due to young overbreeding, and I am very leery of having that happen to any of my animals again.

On the other hand, what can you do about it now? If she is gravid, so be it. Feed her and keep her warm, and monitor her well. Hopefully nothing too significant has occurred.
You have weighed her then? How much does she weigh?
I bred a corn snake in a similar accidental circumstance, and she was barely 200 grams! She produced 7 huge eggs, and all but 2 were fertile. She survived just fine, and is a highly fecund breeder now. Good luck.
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Hoppy Oct 20, 2004 06:11 PM

Well I am breeding 03 males this year, yearling males breed fine as long as they are 3 or 3.5' long. It is not as important to have the male older as it is the female. A small 3-4 year old female may breed but produce a very small clutch, this may cause a problem with her getting up to size the next season to produce an good size clutch. she may take several more years to get to the 30 baby range if breed to early, you may end up with just 15-20 babies per season for several years.
Good Luck
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bahreptiles Oct 20, 2004 06:13 PM

Hey Eric,
I think the female is not old enough. I have bred females that are 14lbs with only 14-16 babies. Give it till next year. Its easy to rush things but,........good things come those who wait. Sorry for the pun but it's true. Just my opinion.
James C.
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ectothermz... Oct 20, 2004 06:34 PM

Eric, this is the striped female that your speaking of? If so then I think that you may not a true locality Columbian on your hands and you might want to consider that you have an animal that simply won't achieve the impressive size of a Columbian animal. I have Locality and Generic Central American animals that are simply smaller animals.

The 10lb rule doesn't always apply, it is just a good barometer for starting your breeding plans.

Like Hoppy said rushing them isn't always bad but does result in smaller birth numbers for furture breeding, and well can result in birth complications.

All you can do is ensure that she is old enough, has good body weight and is as healthy as she can be before breeding is attempted. Good luck my friend.

Justin Higgs
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Hypoboa1 Oct 20, 2004 07:31 PM

I didnt leave him in their long enough to do anything!I just observed him courting her an thought maybe he was kinda young!Now as far as the female,I am asuming she is around 3 years old!She is over 6 ft long though an only weighs 7 pounds so I figured she didn't weigh enough though with the 10 pound rule!Justin it's a new female!It isn't my abberant female!She weighed in at 16 pounds before I even thought about breeding her!With the information I have gotten from this post though,I do worry about the age of my abberant females age though she is only 3 years old!Thats how I am guessing the new females age is because her head is the same size of the abberant's head!I do thank you guys for your help!Thanks Eric[Hypoboa]

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