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This is a very exciting morph of amazon that has been labeled 'Leopard' for obvious reasons. They have another distinct characteristic to them besides the leopard spots and that's the eyes, they all have the same look to them. I really enjoy the leopards I have and look forward to aquiring more animals in the future! As a matter of fact I will be getting my 'Urban Jungles' strain of leopard next week....thanks Danny, John, and Jane you guys are awesome and again congrats on the litter of leopards! Here is one of my animals.........

I did the best I could with the eye shot.......so no critics lol!

You might know something on this, before it was said the Leopard trait was proven Genetic.Do you have any info. on this ? Thank's for the pic.'s ! !
Have A Good one ! !
Kenneth

Hey Kenneth,

The 'Leopard' trait is definately genetic and has been proven by Urban Jungles and they actually have a couple up for sale on the classifieds right now.

So is it co-dom,if you breed a Leopard to a Normal you will get 1/2 Leopard Visual's 1/2 Normal's ?
Kenneth

Hey Kenneth,

They are not co-dom because Urban Jungles bred leopard to normal and got all normals.....

All the Normal's should have been 100 % Het's, and when bred to a Leopard you should get all Leopard's, was this the case ? So a Leopard to Leopard Breeding you get all Leopard's ? And a Leopard bred to a 100 % Het you get ?

Kenneth

I believe if you breed 100% het to leopard you get 75% leopards? Anyone else?

np

If the leopard trait is a simple recessive trait like you are explaining it as, then when you breed a 100% het to a leopard you would get 50% Leopards and 50% normals. So it would be nice to see the numbers of leopards and normals from leopard breedings so that we can see if it is indeed simple recessive. Or, have some kind of statement from Urban Jungles as to the genetics of these little beauties! If anyone is aware of a place where any of this info is, I would love to know about it!
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Ben

O.k. I just got off the phone with Danny of Urban Jungles and he says it is simple recessive. They bred a leopard to a normal and got all normal looking babies and they bred leopard to leopard and got all leopards.....so it would be recessive.

Definitely sounds recessive based on what we know so far. It's still probably best perform all the necessary outcrosses before writing anything in stone. There are 2 possible scenarios here...

1st) Both adult leopards are homozygous recessive for the same mutation at the same loci.

2nd) One of the adults is homozygous dominant, the other is normal.

Both of these scenarios will yield the same outward results in the F1 generation. They will be very different on the inside however. Scenario 1 will produce 100% homozygous recessive leopards, scenario 2 will produce 100% heterozygous dominant leopards. The quickest way to prove this out would be to outcross BOTH adults with unrelated stock. If BOTH subsequent litters contain all normal looking offspring then it's almost definitely simple recessive. Has this been done yet? It's always difficult to prove anything regarding mode of inheritance prior to achieving F2 status, but outcrossing BOTH parents would be a great place to start.

Great topic by the way! I've been wondering when us amazon folks would begin to show more interest in genetics. After all they are the most polymorphic boid species on the planet and their future genetic morph potential is virtually unlimited. Perhaps more so than balls & boas combined! We just all need to start paying better attention to the results of our litters to hopefully unlock some of this potential. Hats off to the Urban Jungles team for doing just that.

>>O.k. I just got off the phone with Danny of Urban Jungles and he says it is simple recessive. They bred a leopard to a normal and got all normal looking babies and they bred leopard to leopard and got all leopards.....so it would be recessive.

Tried to tell you guys all this stuff before and I got blasted for the trouble.

A Breeder would need either a pair of Leopard's in that Breeding you would get all Leopard offspring.So far i've only seen Leopard's for sale , you said they bred a Leopard to a Normal and got all Normal's, they should all be 100 % Het's, i guess we'll have to wait for the Het's to "Hit The Market" do you know what Urban Jungle's got when they Bred a Leopard to the 100 % Het offsping ? Thank's for all the info. Matt !
Have A Good One ! !
Kenneth

Its great to see that "genetics" and "ATB" can be said in the same sentence now. I look forward to seeing what will be available in ATBs and Emeralds in the future.

Chris

Hey Kenneth,

They are not at the point to breed a leopard to a het because they are such a new 'morph'. I believe it is still a couple of years away......can't wait to see it happen!

For all the info. ! ! I know it take's year's to prove out a Genetic Trait, once the offspring are produced and by the time they are Adult Breeders, many year's can go by ! ! Thank's again for all the info. !
Take Care,

Kenneth