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Feeding schedule for young snakes

crtoon83 Oct 21, 2004 02:17 AM

I was wondering I have 2 yearling black rats, 2 4 month old texas bairdis, and a 4 month old blue beauty. I have heard that it is okay to feed hatchlings just once a week, say every saturday or so. My first question is this a good idea? or will it cuase my snakes to be malnurished? Also, with the higher metabolism of the blue beauty will that still be okay for her?

Thanks,
Chris
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

My Website
Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

Replies (9)

Foreman Oct 21, 2004 05:13 AM

>>I was wondering I have 2 yearling black rats, 2 4 month old texas bairdis, and a 4 month old blue beauty. I have heard that it is okay to feed hatchlings just once a week, say every saturday or so. My first question is this a good idea? or will it cuase my snakes to be malnurished? Also, with the higher metabolism of the blue beauty will that still be okay for her?
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>>Thanks,
>>Chris
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>>The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin
>>
>>A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?
>>
>>My Website
>>Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote
>>
>>Current snakes:
>>0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
>>1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
>>1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
>>0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

I cannot speak about the BB since I do not own any but most hatchlings can be fed once every 3-6 days. The size of the food item is the most important point. All most all young snakes seem to have that instinct to grow as quick as possible so they will be less likely to become prey. I have also heard many board members state that you can feed a young snake as much as it wants but it should taper down as the snake grows older.
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Like I said; I`m Gonna Getcha Good!

BillyBoy Oct 21, 2004 07:23 AM

I try and go with a more "natural" feeding regimen. Basically, feed them, let their systems clear out and feed them again. Snakes are not cars that need maintenance at prescribed intervals and your goal should be to get to know your snakes on an intimate basis and then you will begin to pick up on their individual variances. Keep an eye (and records!!) on what each snake eats and when, then check on them daily and monitor their digestive abilities. For example, my little female yellow rat (about 20", wc) will eat one small rat fuzzy and will then poop 3-4 times over the course of the next 4-5 days on average. So right now she is getting fed one prey item that size every 5-7 days. My two wc corns (about 30" ea.) would eat and digest one or two adult mice every 4-5 days when I first got them back in June, but they were relatively thin. Now that their metabolisms have caught up and they have what I consider to be good body weight, they do fine on one adult mouse every 7 days. By day 5 or 6 there systems are usually cleared out and they are prowling for food. I have done the same thing with my Central American boas (two years old and cbb). I got them as 20" 2-month olds being fed every 4 days (how long it took to digest and pass a meal) and now they eat on average twice per month as nearly mature adults. I know lots of people will say that a snake that is xx months old should be fed every x days, but I've found over many years and with many different species, the best way (for me at least) is to feed them, let their systems clear out and then feed again. The most important thing when doing this is to keep records on feeding, shedding, growth, etc. so you can monitor what's going one with your animals, especially as your collection starts to grow in number! This is just my opinion, but I like to use general guidlelines instead of schedules, so with that said, I would feed your youngsters every 4-5 days and your yearlings every 5-7 days. That's where I would start and then modify it from there as needed. Good luck! Billy

>>I was wondering I have 2 yearling black rats, 2 4 month old texas bairdis, and a 4 month old blue beauty. I have heard that it is okay to feed hatchlings just once a week, say every saturday or so. My first question is this a good idea? or will it cuase my snakes to be malnurished? Also, with the higher metabolism of the blue beauty will that still be okay for her?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Chris
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>>The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin
>>
>>A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?
>>
>>My Website
>>Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote
>>
>>Current snakes:
>>0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
>>1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
>>1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
>>0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

panther13half Oct 21, 2004 01:08 PM

i agree with the ....let them poop then feed routine.....feeding too much ends up in waste and i have seen snakes pass whole semidigested mice.....kind of a waste imo

nice yellow

i just released a couple like that one.....i live near the everglades and we find those quite regularly, also corns and almost every other swamp snake you can imagine (i have a friend that keeps every snake he catches ((i dont agree with it but you cannot talk him out of it)) and he has about 40 water snakes, both banded green brown and some i dont even know.)

keith
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I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.

Foreman Oct 21, 2004 01:56 PM

>>i agree with the ....let them poop then feed routine.....feeding too much ends up in waste and i have seen snakes pass whole semidigested mice.....kind of a waste imo
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>>nice yellow
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>>i just released a couple like that one.....i live near the everglades and we find those quite regularly, also corns and almost every other swamp snake you can imagine (i have a friend that keeps every snake he catches ((i dont agree with it but you cannot talk him out of it)) and he has about 40 water snakes, both banded green brown and some i dont even know.)
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>>keith
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>>I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.

Yes BillyBoy expained it well. system clearing is very important. It allow the snake o TELL you when it`s ready to eat again by their searching around. Great points.
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Like I said; I`m Gonna Getcha Good!

draybar Oct 21, 2004 04:52 PM

>>You know my take on the subject.
I feed my snakes once a week.
Hatchlings and adults.
Hell, back when I was growing up there weren't many books to go by and definitely no internet but somewhere along the line we were told that snakes probably didn't eat any more then about once a month, on average, so we used to keep them on a three week schedule. This was more then they would probably eat in the wild so we thought we were doing good. They never starved. They grew well and never refused a meal.
Basically what I am saying is that if a snake eats once a week it will not be malnourished. It may not grow as quickly as some of the "hurry-up-and-breed-it-to-make-money" people might want but it will grow up strong and healthy.
Not to mention the fact that if I went by the feed them after they crap schedule, with all of my snakes, I would be feeding everyday.
It is just easier for me to pick one day a week and make that feeding day.
Although, by next season I may have to make that a two day schedule.
Feed all of my existing snakes on Saturday and all of the hatchlings on Sunday.
NOTE: I know absolutely nothing about Blue Beauties so they are not included in this post.
NOTE 2...LOL. This is just MY way of doing it. MY opinions on the subject and MY experience.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

panther13half Oct 21, 2004 06:40 PM

i guess i should clarify.....i would wait AT LEAST until they poop.....i also feed about once a week.....sometimes its 10 or 11 days even, then 4, but on average once a week......(my work schedule and my mice breeding habits dictate when feeding happens lol, sometimes i have to hit the pet shop, ((i dont buy bulk frozen.....not yet anyway.....i have enough to go around.....for now))

I also dont pork up my snakes....but i do feed them larger prey items....big enough to give em a good meal......this keeps them happy.....the've told me so...

hahaha

keith

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I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.

draybar Oct 21, 2004 07:25 PM

>>i guess i should clarify.....i would wait AT LEAST until they poop.....i also feed about once a week.....sometimes its 10 or 11 days even, then 4, but on average once a week......(my work schedule and my mice breeding habits dictate when feeding happens lol, sometimes i have to hit the pet shop, ((i dont buy bulk frozen.....not yet anyway.....i have enough to go around.....for now))
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>>I also dont pork up my snakes....but i do feed them larger prey items....big enough to give em a good meal......this keeps them happy.....the've told me so...
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>>hahaha

Keith,
I didn't mean to infer that you were power feeding your snakes. I knew you were waiting until after they poop.
I don't see your feeding schedule as powewr feeding at all.
Jimmy

panther13half Oct 21, 2004 11:46 PM

i didnt take it that way.....but when i reread my post it sounded sort of like it......just wanted to clarify

All my snakes are doing great....in fact i am going to take some new pics tonite!!!(I am at work now....slow at this time of nite sometimes)

I will be home from work at about 3:30 am (as usual i work noon til after 2 am)

will chat later

keith
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I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.

zelaphez Oct 21, 2004 07:01 PM

This is what works for me. I feed my hatchlings and juvies every 7 days, and the adults get fed every 14 days. Of course, those that eat rabbits would get a less frequent schedule, but I don't have anything at that size right now. I split feeding days up over the course of a week. I feed certain groups of them on certain days: larger boids and colubrids on Mondays, arboreals and ratsnakes on Wednesdays, and younger colubrids and boids on Fridays. I skip every now and then, but often a shed cycle takes care of that for me. I've never had any problems with obesity, regurgitation, or semidigested meals. My only "problem feeder" is my big gray ratsnake who is rather picky. Again, this is what works for me.

Bry

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