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Anyone care to divulge what projects they'll be undertaking in the spring???

Darin Chappell Oct 21, 2004 03:57 PM

Since I have drastically reduced "the herd" this year, I'm focusing only on bloodred morphs. I am trying to select the very best specimens I can, in order to produce the highest quality individuals in a small collection. Next year, I hope to have:

Hypo bloodrds
Anery bloodreds
Amel bloodreds
Bloodred (het for any and all of the above)

As to my motley x bloodred project that so many of you have asked about, I have taken a bit of a turn there as well. I simply cannot afford the time necessary to bring such a project about to fruition. There are just too many hets produced in search of those true bloodred motlies. When you then consider that it may be the case that those homozygous animal will be fairly indestinguishable from bloodreds or motlies, you then have to be willing to keep those F2 to adulthood for further breeding trials. I simply cannot.

So, I have provided for the project to continue by bringing in a very respected breeder, who does this full time, and has the utmost of reputations for working with these lines. He will actually be producing those animals, and not me. However, I may get some bloodred motlies from him some day down the line, and it'll be fun to remember breeding their great-grandparents a few years earlier...

As for the rest of you...what are your projects this coming year??? No trade secrets are necessary, but if you CAN tell us, I'm sure we'd all be interested.


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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

Replies (13)

draybar Oct 21, 2004 05:37 PM

Not your favorite line of snakes, Darrin, but most of my projects will be creamsicles or emoryi/guttata mix.
At least you know I will never represent them as anything other then what they are.
I have a certain project I am working towards and will not really divulge that. It is more selective breeding and will take a little longer....but other then that...

I will be breeding some Cinnamons (hypo guttata/emoryi).
It is possible the cinnamons are het amel (cream) and if so this could produce some sunglow creams. Pretty sharp looking creams. If you like them...lol
I will be breeding some basic Creamsicles also.
And I have a striped male Creamsicle that will be bred with one of my female creams to work on stripe creams. I have a stripe cream female but she won't be ready to breed for another year.
I will be breeding my female snow with my male ghost het amel again, they produced some nice little snows and anerys.
and probably my most anticipated....My Bairds Rat snakes!!
I can't wait to produce some of my own little bairdis.
My female Okeetee isn't ready yet so no Okeetees until the following season.

So, as you can see.. nothing spectacular. Just some fun little projects.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

griffindor Oct 22, 2004 12:41 AM

The breeding I'm most excited about is a caramel stripe het amel x triple het butter stripe. I'm crossing my fingers for at least one butter stripe.

Mike H. Oct 22, 2004 12:48 AM

Well...

Due to a severe lack of time, I'm cutting way back on my breeding. I know of two projects I'll definitely be breeding... Aztec Okeetees (my '02 holdbacks will be breeding size) and my Calico Chinese Beauty Snake project.

Not sure yet, but some projects that may or may not get bred...Candy canes, Aztec Candy Canes, Aztec Creamsicles, & Hypo Snow. It's always fun to see what everyone is working on, I can't wait to see everyone's replies.


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Mike Heinrich
mike@amazontreeboa.org
www.amazontreeboa.org

Warren Oct 22, 2004 02:21 AM

Hey Mike,

Just remember me next year when you get those Aztec Candy Canes and those Aztec Creams!!! Would Love to talk Turkey then!!!

Thanks!!
Warren C.

Gargoyle420 Oct 22, 2004 01:32 AM

Just going to be breeding some hypos and amels this year.That and my bairds.Im currently looking at some adult breeders of rats if I can swing it this year.What kind?Ancient Chinese secret.lol..Paul

Hoppy Oct 22, 2004 07:03 AM

Well Corn Snake wise, My Banded Hypo Corn will be ready to breed this season and I plan on matching her up with a Striped Hypo Corn.
I also have several Striped Ghost and snows that will be breeding this year and a few other things that should produce some really cool looking babies. I am hoping for some neat combos this coming year, maybe a few more like this one (striped/cubed blue eyed ghost in the picture)
As for the boas her is the list of the breedings this season that I am hoping for
Anery 66% Het for Snow x Albino Female (01 1st year breeding)- Albinos Het for snow and Double hets for snow.

Albino Het (00 1st year breeding) Female with a Double het for Ghost male (01) Hypos with a chance for quad Hets for Sunglow, Ghost, Snow and combinations there of WOW!

Colombian/Suri Cross (Huge 8’+ Female) with Salmontine male 01- Nice Salmontine babies

Ecuadorian female (01 1st year breeding) with High Pink Striped Line Male- Nice pink and red babies

Huge Colombian Female 9’+ 60lbs x a Salmon Male 01- Should be lots of pretty Salmon Boas

Ivory Anery Boa (00) x A Double Het for Ghost male, they bred last year and produced some beautiful babies- Beautiful Ghosts, Double Het Hypos and Anery Boa

Double Het for Ghost Female x a Leticia Anery Male 02, some new blood into the ghost line- I am excited to see what the Leticia influence will bring to the Ghost projects, no one else that I know of is working this line!


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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Hoppy Oct 22, 2004 07:04 AM

here is her photo ain't she purdy?

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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Amanda E Oct 22, 2004 07:14 AM

Nothing too wild:

I'm going to breed a Coral Snow with a Ghost poss Het Amel to try for more Coral Snows, and if not, at least I'll get Ghosts Het Amel that I can use later. I'm also going to be breeding my Bloodred pair. I can't wait to see what they'll produce with him being beautiful and her only so-so.

In 2006 I plan on breeding a Bloodred to a Ghost. I'd love to have some Hypo Bloods and AneryA Bloods. It'd be quicker and cheaper to just buy these morphs off someone who already has them, but I like the idea of trying to do it myself.
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colubridlady@gmail.com

3.3 adult cornsnakes
1.2 baby cornsnakes
7 cornsnake eggs

Sasheena Oct 22, 2004 08:31 AM

After such a disastrous first year breeding corns, I've had to fight off the urge to just completely get out of cornsnakes altogether. Altogether I had 21 15 12 cornsnake eggs laid this year, and I have three slightly kinked babies that lived, and that is IT. BUT.... I'm willing to give it one more try... And the nice thing is that I have a pair of corns that are proven breeders so at least I'll get an idea, if I have a bad year again, that it is ME and not the snakes!

No high-falutin special plans this year. I had hoped to produce some "striped motleys" this year and work on some bizarre patterned corns for several generations to see what I got, but my three babies from this year are fairly simple: Reverse Okeetee het stripe, Okeetee het stripe, amel, and stripe het anery (poss het amel).

Pair #1: Cornelius & Cleo ... donated to me and proven breeders, Cleo is a creamsicle, and I believe that cornelius is a normalsicle het amel. They are my classroom snakes. I hope to take them out of brumation early enough so that they can breed, lay eggs, and have the eggs hatch before the middle of May. I would love to have my students involved in the whole process. Their offspring will be mostly intended for students (who have parental permission)

Pair #2: Aphrodite & Zeus... Aphrodite had 2 clutches, 10 eggs, followed by 5 eggs. None of her offspring lived. She's het snow, and possible het motley. He's a hurricane snow motley. Both are possible het/homo hypo. Hopefully the bad luck I had was environmental and not genetic, and if so they should have very beautiful babies next year. I should have a wide variety of offspring from that combination.

Pair #3: Hermes & Athena. Hermes is Striped--Okeetee lines, judging by his rich color and the coloration of the offspring he had by a reverse okeetee--and is het amel, het anery. Athena is an Anery stripe, no known hets in her lineage. this year she laid 12 eggs, 6 of which were slugs. 1 of her eggs died early in incubation. Two of her eggs pipped, the other three were dead in egg, deformed spines and/or jaws and/or heads. The two who lived appeared perfect but later seemed to develop kinks. One lived, one never ate and died. This is the real test case to find out if it is genetic or environmental. Hopefully! (fingers crossed that they are all fine)

Pair #4: I might breed my anery (who looks like a ghost) to my other anery (who looks like a ghost) but I'm probably going to try to find them a good home or if I breed her this coming year it'll probably be to the hurricane snow motley (her sibling) and get a variety, or to Hermes (striped) and get a variety.

on the kingsnke horizon, I have much more interesting projects.
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~Sasheena

Spardawolf Oct 22, 2004 08:53 AM

I will probably only have 5 females ready for this year, so this will be my first year of having what is to me alot of hatchlings if all works out well.

I have a couple of motley females, sunglow, and crimson het sunglow, that I plan on breeding my striped amel male to. That way I will get some of those cool striped motley babies, amel and hypo. I am also going to breed my pair of snows, and my hypo het lav female to either my lav male or my hypo lav male if he gets some size on him. The anery A female is either going to get bred to my bloodred male or the lave male, I haven't decided yet. I am leaning towards the bloodred right now.

In 2006 in when the real fun will begin, that is when my bloodered, pewter, opal, aztec okeetees, and lavas will be ready. I can't wait to start working with those Lavas. They should prove to be alot of fun. The aztec okees are another that I am patiently waiting for. I can't wait to produce some of those beauties from Mikes stunning stock.
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Paula
19 Corns,6 Ratsnakes, 1 Ball Python, 2 Hognose
Snake Addict
www.tlcreptiles.net

Marcel Poots Oct 22, 2004 10:57 AM

Darin,

I was hoping to see your result on the project next year. You are the only one in the whole world who I know to be working on the same project. As you know I am trying to make that first Bloodred Motley as well. You are right about the part of reconizing Bloodred Motleys from normal Motleys (or Motley het Bloodred for that matter). I am pretty nervous about that too. But I really am hoping on apperant differences. My hets are doing great. Good feeders and they are a treat for the eye aswell. My projects for 2005 are :

-Pewters,
-Bloodreds,
-Butters
-Lavenders
-Hognoses.

I hope to get my Bloodred Motley hets in size for breeding spring 2006.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield
http://www.marcelpoots.com

Kat Oct 22, 2004 02:53 PM

Nothing hugely special planned for 2005... I've been having disappointing results with various het-producing pairings I've done for the past few years, so if it won't produce a homozygous morph of some sort in the F1, it's not getting paired up this coming spring... and then if I get all males in a clutch, it won't matter nearly so much.

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

pogona Oct 23, 2004 04:19 AM

This will only be my second year for breeding corns. I bought some gravid w/c snakes from a friend in Florida and had awesome success. 100% hatch rate. I was very suprised, but an even bigger suprise was that I got 2 anery babies from one clutch. I've heard that there have been true aneries caught in certain parts of Florida. Unfortunately I don't remember which female laid what eggs so I have no idea who is het. I hope to breed some hypo into my florida corns in the future. I will only be producing some low-end corns this year. Snows, aneries, amels and a lot of hets I'm sure. I have some cool babies to breed in the future though, blizzard, amel bloods,stripes and motleys, and some trinket ratsnakes. Good luck to all of you on your breeding projects.

Here is a really bad pic of one of my w/c florida males

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