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Hi there:

I love odd little studied snakes, like Kirtland's snakes, one of my favorite. In fact, I just ordered a mud snake!
Anyway, I really think it is a shame that worm snakes are so often ignored. They're REALLY docile, they stay small, and eat invertebrates. They can live in small cages, and they aren't endangered or anything, so why don't more people keep them? Captive-bred worm snakes would be really swell. Picture albino specimens. There are already melanistic ones that have been found. Someone, please start breeding these guys! They must be the easiest snake to take care of in the whole world!
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DAVE

Western green toad
green treefrogs
green Anole
brown Anole
Mediterranean gecko
Oriental fire-bellied toads
American bullfrog
South American caecilian (Dermophis occidentalis)
Spanish ribbed newt
rough-skinned newt
golden Axolotl
Eastern ribbon snakes
red-cheeked mud turtles
dwarf peacock day gecko
Dubia day gecko
Sonoran gopher snake
rough green snakes
giant African black millipedes
White's treefrog
Okeetee corn snake
Albino African clawed frog
Pygmy leaf chameleon
Kenyan sand boa
Argentine flame-bellied toadlet
African bullfrog
yellow * Everglades rat snake intergrade
Western hognose snake
fire salamander

I can't tell you why most people don't keep them, maybe because people want to see a snake that they have, and worm snakes tend to be underground a good percent of the time. I've never heard of melanistic worm snakes, but amelanistic eastern and western worm snakes have been found.

I wanted to work with worm snakes in the spring and breed them and such. But I wasn't able to get a hold of any. Hey you get me some I'll gladly try and work with them.
Michael
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I love the lesser kept snakes. I'm working on a redbelly project as it is.

Like Mr Helms, I'd be all over a breeding project for worm snakes, thread snakes, blind snakes, etc etc, but I've never been able to procure any.

Any leads you have would be greatly appreciated.

I'd be all over projects containing Tantilla, pine woods snakes, blind snakes, I'm not into thread snakes much because they are so small, but I'd probably try with them too. There are tons of small snakes out there that haven't been worked with much, like sharp tail snakes, all the info you can find on them on different websites, is all the same, most phrases aren't even changed around, it's sad. I like to feel as though I have done my part in making people recognize Diadophis more than they once did, it's sad that they are considered bad captives. I am still working with many ringneck projects, but I'm getting more and more out of them each time I obtain a new small less studied species.
Michael
Michael's Place

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Oh I had a pine woods snake. It was the hardest snake ever to get to eat and to eat on a steady basis.
I bought it at petstore being sold as feeder snake. they are native in my area though I never see any.
Maybe it was that particular snake but it was a pain to get it to eat.
Fleck

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=601898,603842

I found this note on the other forum yesterday.

Just out of curiosity, do you guys have any clue what else you could feed these things besides ants or termites? Needless to say I'd be a bit...um...peeved...if the food supply escaped into my house or my classroom.

Like could you do pinhead crickets or something? Maybe moth larvae like a small waxworm? Silkworms? I don't know...

I have dropped the guy an email, I'm gonna actually try out more foods for them instead of making them be food. As far as I know, they eat termites, termite larvae, termite eggs, ants/larvae/eggs, and they are very interesting snakes, they'll chew their food. They can also send out a scent similar to an ant's, to make the ants think nothing is wrong when the snake enters their burrow to eat the larvae and the eggs, so they do not attack it. I'd be pretty mad if the prey escaped as well, I have a solution, only feed them f/t ant egg, ant larvae, ants, etc. F/t items aren't too good at escaping lol.
Michael
Michael's Place

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Where would you get f/t ants, ant eggs, and ant larvae?
I haven't seen any companies who sell those yet...

I don't know about you, but I find ants/ant eggs/larvae with great frequency on accident during herping trips. I could just gather plenty of them and freeze them, I'm gonna put it to the test next week, the guy is getting me 15. I have seen companies that sell ant eggs, but I don't remember where I saw them for sale.
Michael
Michael's Place

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www.freewebs.com/mikesnake

Yeah, just flipping a rock will tend to reveal quite a few and I guess you dont have to worry about parasites too much (especially after freezing).

Hi,

I caught a blue worn snake a few months ago. I assumed it was shedding but, could it have been a morph?