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why would anyone want those the get like almost 30 ft long don't they and couldn't they eat you?

I honestly don't know why people like you post. Why do people keep venomous? Why do people keep large monitors (yes they could kill you), why do people keep crocs, exotic cats, bears, hmmm why do zoo's do it? Think about it and answer your own question.
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John Light
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I agree with you on everything except the thing you said about large monitors. Give me one, just one example of a large, legal monitor killing someone.

you said legal, that rules out komodo's. LOL Remember the dead guy being eatten by this waters. Atleast they didn't go hungry!
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John Light
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Im fully confident in saying that croc monitors can kill an adult. I havent heard of it happening, but im sure it could.

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-echo-

There was a man found in Illinois eatten by his two pet nile monitors im not sure if the monitors killed him or not he may have just had a heart attack and the lizards just did what came natural and started eatting what was left i read it as secondhand information in a herp society newsletter

No way an adult croc can kill and eat a human. Has anyone here ever seen an adult croc in person? I've seen a 9.5fter in Jungle exotics, and my friend also has a large one. Their body length compared to tail length ratio is 1.2, so a 6fter for example would have a body length of around 2ft or so. Now the 6fter I worked with only weighed 8lbs and it was a ltc, plump animal. So yeah, crocs can do damage, but I doubt they could kill someone. I've never heard a recorded case of a monitor lizards aside from Komodo Dragons actually killing a human. About people seeing waters eating people in Indo, that is something the natives do when a person passes. They leave the body out for the monitors to eat, but the monitors were not the ones who killed the person.

I disagree that a Crocodile Monitor (full grown) could not over power a human and eat it if it wanted to. I use to keep Savanna Monitors...and when they didnt want held....trust me, they didnt want held.

I feell any monitors such as a Nile, Water, or Crocodile could easily take down a ahuman, but its just as easy and easier to take the proper precautions that this doesnt happen.

And as for the ? on why do people keep Retics? Captive Reticulated Pythons rarely exceed 18ft in length from what I've heard. So no they dont get 30ft. I see no danger in keeping these animals as long as the PROPER PRECAUTIONS are taken (as stated above.)

"I feell any monitors such as a Nile, Water, or Crocodile could easily take down a ahuman, but its just as easy and easier to take the proper precautions that this doesnt happen."

Even though crocs still have small bodies, they can hit 12 feet. so say you have a crock with a 4 foot body (still a big ass lizard) being handled carelessly. Maybe a little bit too clost to your body, and you happen to get a nice bit on your neck. You are going to be in serious trouble.

Now you can say that it would only happen if being handled wrong. The same can be said for Retics... If you handle it wrong you greatly increase the chances of being hurt. But if you take the proper precautions, you'll be fine.
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Ok, so how many of you HAVE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE with SALVADORRI? A 10ft Salvator is much stronger than a croc monitor of same size. And an adult croc eats on jumbo rats, not humans. It would take forever for one to finish a whole human. They are semi arboreal and in the wild their main diet consits of tree dwelling rats, usaully not big meals. IMO, a large salvadorri can bite the [bleep] out of and seriously hurt you, but not kill you. A 10ft(extremely rare) salvator(that isn't obese like most are) imo could do more damage than a salvadorri of same size, but I still doubt it could take down a full grown human, nor do I think it would have intentions of doing so.

I wouldnt hesitate to say that a full grown 10-12' croc monitor got ahold of you good, that he COULD kill you, maybe not devour you totally, but i think definately could kill you. If one got ahold of you in a vital place, or just by the leg, you lost balance, one could easily then pull you to the ground, and if he got you in the neck real good or something, you could DEFINATELY get you...

I hope you dont have any monitors, because this could be bad. I think you are ignorant to the fact at just how powerful these creatures are. An adult could easily break a brone with just a whip of his tail, and just as easily take you down with his jaws and take a bite to the throat.

I'm done on this subject...I'm here to discuss REticulated Pythons, not Monitors and how they CAN kill you. Make a topic in the monitor section and send me a link if you want my opinions again.

The most salient point of BMX's comment was that a moniter would not have the "intent" to take down or kill or eat a human. This is very true therefore whether a large monitor could kill a human is moot. Remember, animals don't kill for the sake of killing, only for the sake of it's own survival, therefore if it's target is not one that can be feasibly be eaten or part of its normal diet, it won't bother with it. Generally speaking, a cockerspaniel could kill its owner if it wanted to, but it's far from its nature or inate instincts to do so.

Echo...I never mentioned anything about proper handling. There is no way to properly handle an 8ft monitor (in my opinion.)

First off, I do understand the power of these things. My friend Mark has a close to 10ft Female. She bit a tore off someone's calf when they were in her enclouser. That's powerfull, but she did that not because she wanted to eat/kill him, but because he was in her territory. Apparently you've never seen an adult croc up close, but I have numerous times at different places. I understand the power these guys have and would not underestimate them, but the fact still is...... NO ONE HAS BEEN KILLED BY VARANUS SALVADORRI! PROVE ME WRONG. OK PROVE ME WRONG JUST DO IT. YOU CAN SAY ALL THE [bleep] THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR HEAD, BUT CAN YOU PLEASE JUST FIND ME ONE DOCUMENTATION SAYING A SAVADORRI ONCE KILLED SOMEONE?? PLEASE DO....

Edited on October 26, 2004 at 15:45:29 by phwyvern.

You argue that it could not. It definatly could. YOu say that it wouldnt. It probably wouldnt (intetinaly). Could it happen? yes. Do I really care enough to search for a documented care? Definatly not. I never said that they ate people. just that they could kill a person. end of story.

Besides, how often do retics eat people? seriously, this topic got out of hand.

BTW BMX: theres no need to get so cocky and pompus on a damned KS forum.. Really dude. chill....

Im done.

fin.
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-echo-

Omar, give me a break. A 10' female croc that your "friend" has?

Do we need to go into your history of being kicked off forums for your BS????

How many croc females do you have? How much experience do you ACTUALLY HAVE firsthand with them?

Quit trying to come off as an expert...you're what, 15 now?

>>First off, I do understand the power of these things. My friend Mark has a close to 10ft Female. She bit a tore off someone's calf when they were in her enclouser. That's powerfull, but she did that not because she wanted to eat/kill him, but because he was in her territory. Apparently you've never seen an adult croc up close, but I have numerous times at different places. I understand the power these guys have and would not underestimate them, but the fact still is...... NO ONE HAS BEEN KILLED BY VARANUS SALVADORRI! PROVE ME WRONG. OK PROVE ME WRONG JUST DO IT. YOU CAN SAY ALL THE SH!T THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR HEAD, BUT CAN YOU PLEASE JUST FIND ME ONE DOCUMENTATION SAYING A SAVADORRI ONCE KILLED SOMEONE?? PLEASE DO....
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um....sorry if i came off as aggresive for you to explode like that...but i was simply telling how I feel.

maybe ill just keep my mouth shut from now on.

You know Mark? Yeah the Mark who worked at NJpets the day you came in and acted........ to him.
He has a close to 10ft female named reznor. I believe she is around 9.5ft so I estimated 10ft.

well if you new your rounding skills you always round down if its less than half of the nubmer!@ geeze oh man!

haha im jk with ya!

LOL...I can hardly believe I'm wasting my time with this.

No, I don't know Mark. I've been to NJpets ONCE - and you're friend wasn't exactly Mr. Congeniality, so don't be surprised if I wasn't going out of my way to act like little Miss Sunshine to him. Deal with it.

Omar, you have made a reputation for yourself by overembellishing stories, as well as inflating your experience level. There's plenty of proof of it all over the web. Please don't try to drag me into your little games by trying to sound like Mr-Know-It-All. I'm not the only one who's sick of the crap you constantly talk.

A 10' FEMALE croc monitor is highly suspect. Are you sure your friend/expert/buddy who works at the pet store doesn't have a male? We have a TRUE 9' male...we also have SEVERAL females, most of which are 5 years old, and none of which are over 6-7' feet in length, tail included. "Mark" may want to have his monitor re-sexed.

Now please, cut the sh!t.

Thanks!

>>You know Mark? Yeah the Mark who worked at NJpets the day you came in and acted........ to him.
>>He has a close to 10ft female named reznor. I believe she is around 9.5ft so I estimated 10ft.
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>>LOL...I can hardly believe I'm wasting my time with this.
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>>No, I don't know Mark. I've been to NJpets ONCE - and you're friend wasn't exactly Mr. Congeniality, so don't be surprised if I wasn't going out of my way to act like little Miss Sunshine to him. Deal with it.
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>>Omar, you have made a reputation for yourself by overembellishing stories, as well as inflating your experience level. There's plenty of proof of it all over the web. Please don't try to drag me into your little games by trying to sound like Mr-Know-It-All. I'm not the only one who's sick of the crap you constantly talk.
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>>A 10' FEMALE croc monitor is highly suspect. Are you sure your friend/expert/buddy who works at the pet store doesn't have a male? We have a TRUE 9' male...we also have SEVERAL females, most of which are 5 years old, and none of which are over 6-7' feet in length, tail included. "Mark" may want to have his monitor re-sexed.
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>>Now please, cut the sh!t.
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>>Thanks!
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>>>>You know Mark? Yeah the Mark who worked at NJpets the day you came in and acted........ to him.
>>>>He has a close to 10ft female named reznor. I believe she is around 9.5ft so I estimated 10ft.
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>>Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean
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Why do people own guns? Someone could possibly die.

or cars

Has this thread done ANYTHING to enlighten ANYONE as to the awesome responsibilities - and rewards - of actually keeping retics?

Didn't think so.

Oh yeah, they're there...buried underneath an asinine monitor argument.

K

>>why would anyone want those the get like almost 30 ft long don't they and couldn't they eat you?
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Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean