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i don't often post here, but i've been a faithful reader for 5 years or so. i've bought snakes from some of you, and i keep in touch with some of you. and i know some of you in your own right. i've admired your boas, and you have said nice things about mine. i have owned several herps including an albino boa. my talks with hermann have been brief, but i have always been overwhelmed with his friendly attitude and offer to take fellow herpers into his home. i respect everyone's efforts to breed the snakes that they love and continue to wish to see for years. but it's no small threat that the animals we have loved for decades are rapidly losing their homes. why are we arguing with the few people who will keep peruvians around long after they have disappeared? it would be a true tragedy of the snakes we have loved became lost. boas come in varied colours and patterns. things we have all learned to become passionate about. the war-paint blotches on peruvians, the washed out pastels of some of the island breeds, the blue-grey of the costa rican boa. do we really want this gone? why can we not appreciate those who continue the legacy of our beloved animals? i would like to thank hermann for keeping these snakes around for us so that one day the next generation can appreciate the snakes that i loved as a child. i love the variants of boas... even down to the genetic 'oopsies' of the albino and the snows. but the originals must not be forgotten or lost. hermann's collection is a testament to the amazing variety of true nature. of soon to be lost archetypes.

so i'd like to say hermann, that you do reach those who merely lurk. i have appreciated your boa website and photos. and i want to thank you for making available to us what modernity and 'progress' are taking away from us.

~lin

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No one ever said that all of the locale boas should not be preserved. That is a cause I think we ALL support. We just disagree on how to go about it. We also disagree on what really threatens these animals. What people have a problem with is the way Herman goes about making his point. Personal attacks, lies, and attempts to marginalize the Morphs and those who work hard to produce them. This behavior will not help slow the disappearence of wild populations in any way what so ever. It simply causes division between Boa enthusiasts.

How can you condone his behavior????

Oz
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So please tell me when have I lied here! Name an example!
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

When you stated that Dave bred his Hogg to a Hypo because he was unable to get his hoggs to breed. When in actuality he did produce pure hoggs. You stated this as a fact... did you not? It seems like sometimes you just make stuff up. I have no problem with your stance, just the reckless way you go about trying to proove your point.

Oz
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Dave posted a photo of one of the Hog Island babies as a proof that he actually has bred true Hog Island boas.

In the same thread someone pointed out that Dave has used exactly the same photo several weeks before when he published the first pics of his Hog Islands X Hypo crosses.

So why did Dave use a photo of his crosses to prove that he has bred true Hog Islands?

At that time I insinuated that he had produced crosses because of his inability to breed pure Hog Island boas. If you regard an imputation as a lie, then we have different points of view.

In view of the "photo - trick" it is a matter of opinion who lied, if there has been a lie at all.

But this is an old story that we should not dig up.

OK, and now get back to your teacher that you had as a first grade pupil and have him/her explain to you the difference between a lie and an imputation. You will need this knowledge for the rest of your life, otherwise you may make yourself unnecessary enemies.
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

On the origin of the Arabesque boas? please tell THAT one again! will that be in your book?

Seems that some other people share my opinion:

"...it is funny how all these american breeders are so threatened by you. My favourite is the "arabesque" boa. Instead of the breeders coming back with an informative explaination as to how they were created, they just try to blast you down and say how stupid and rude Hermann is....I too, believe those arabesque boas are crossbreeds, they look like they have occidentalis or longicauda or both in them. It is so funny to see big breeders like pete kahl blasting you because he is so scared people will find out the truth about garbage like arabesque or jungles. These people see you as the biggest threat to their "morph industry".

Interesting lines, aren't they? *LOL*
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Wow,Well,I guess that "proves" everything! is that an email from your super intelligent friend,Yohn Yohnson?...All kidding aside Hermann,it has been a real hoot,and,all...but,at this point I think you should just let it go bud? I mean it's been mildly entertaining watching you make a fool of yourself,and,then trying to backpeddle out,(over,and,over,...)and,I know how much you love to be the center of ANY kind of attention,but,now even I'M getting embarassed for you...find a shred of dignity man!,hell,even if you have to borrow it! I mean there's still one,or,two people that are willing to stick up for you,based solely on the fact that you have a cool website...but,now,even they're looking for shore! *lol* GO clean some snake cages,or,write another book! (poor Pete,and,Jeremy are gonna have to file chapter 13,and,it's all your fault) you need professional counciling I think?...or,a punching bag maybe?

If you are right Peter Kahl would have just leaned back after reading my lines, smirking and saying: "What a jerk!"

OK, let's it pass.
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!