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What do you do when it gets cold?

Obediah2 Oct 24, 2004 05:56 PM

I've been having a blast finding snakes this spring and summer, but I think I'm getting an addiction. I'm sure you all have it already, so Iwas wondering how you get your "fix" in the winter months.

Is it possible to go find snakes on a fluke sunny day in February?

I'm in Southern California, so I think I'll keep on looking, but I guess it is possible that I will be completely wasting my time. Any thoughts?

By the way...I just got back from Vegas and I saw a baby gopher snake at around 1:00pm in the foothills west of the strip. It was around 68 degrees and the sun was intense.

good luck out there,

Jake

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Fieldnotes Oct 24, 2004 06:20 PM

Salamanders are one way to pass the winter months and for many people they help to fulfill that fix. If you are strictly looking for snakes it is possible to find a few snakes like Ring-necked, gopher, rattlers, and a few other species by flipping boards.

metalpest Oct 25, 2004 04:33 PM

I was unaware I could continue to find snakes. Im in the high desert, it gets pretty cold, do I still have a chance? Whats the best weather for winter board flipping? Near water maybe?

I have yet to see a salamander, so that may be cool. Are there any near Lancaster? Id rather not travel too far.

Fieldnotes Oct 27, 2004 01:03 AM

Best chance for winter snakes is near the coast where the weather doesnt get to cold. As for the salamanders, simply drive to the San Gabriel Nat'l Forest or Tehachapi Mountains.

RichardFHoyer Oct 26, 2004 12:33 PM

Jake,
The conventional thought for eons has been that during the winter in the northern hemisphere, reptiles hibernate. Well, that is partly true, particularly east of the Sierra Nevada and Cascade Mts. to the Atlantic. S. Florida, Texas, etc there are exceptions. However, west of those mountains to the Pacific, here on the west coast we have a rather unique situation in which during the winter months, there can be relatively frequent periods of decent weather in which the sun shines for a number of days accompanied by mild temperatures; mild meaning from the mid 50 degrees F. and above.

Under those circumstances, some species of reptiles will come to the surface or beneath surface objects to thermoregulate. Beside the species William (Fieldnotes) mentioned, the Southern and Northern Alligator lizards commonly can be found during late fall and winter months of November, December, January and 'February. Even the W. Fence Lizard can be observed at such times, usually when the sun is out and air temperatures at or above 60 degrees, especially on south facing slopes.

I live in western Oregon and ever since 1971, I have never failed to find the Rubber Boa during the month of Feb. About every 3-4 years, I will find the species during the month of Jan. and on occasion have found them during December as well. It is not that uncommon to find the species during the firsts couple of weeks of Nov. The same applies to the Sharp-tailed Snake which is even more unusual in that it can continue to feed and digest prey with temperatures in the high 40's into the 50's and above during the winter months. In a study on that species published by Cook in 1960, I believe the peak period of when the Sharptail was observed in Calif. was Feb. and March.

Past input on this and other forums from Calif. residence indicate the same scenario only with greater frequency as your temperatures, especially near the coast, are even more mild than they are here in the Willamette Valley of W. Oregon. So a researcher mentioned finding a boa last Jan. 25 in he Santa Cruz Mts. which I duly recorded and place in my folder dealing with such matters. I believe Brian H. (Fundad) a couple of years ago mentioned it was not all that in the LA to San Diego region, it was not uncommon to find S. Pac. Rattlers, Gopher Snakes and Common Kingsnakes (perhaps other species) beneath cover objects during suitable conditions during the winter.

When my children were young, they lived with their mother in Lucerne, Calif. along the NW shore of Clear Lake in Lake County. I went to visit them for two years during Christmas time between Dec. 23 - 30th. In those two years, we found a Common Kingsnake, Ringneck Snake, two Sharp-tailed Snakes, W. Fence Lizards, S. All. Lizards, and W. Skinks. One year the frost remained unmelted in the protected shaded areas of the south facing hills but with totally sunny skies, those south facing slopes obviously warmed subsurface temperatures sufficiently to bring out those species.

It's a nice challenge to find herps, including reptiles, during the winter months.

Richard F. Hoyer

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