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I think we should rename this forum ...

H+E Stoeckl Jun 29, 2003 02:17 PM

... in "Talk-about-Hermann-forum".

Just kidding!

But let's get serious now. First of all: Thanks for the support to all who supported me! I appreciate it.

Let me share some thoughts with you: Someone remember John Johnson? He used to post here regularly. He was/is a breeder with great knowledge that he was willing to share in this forum with us. He also had strong opinions that he uttered loud and clear like me. And he also got bashed for it. As a matter of fact he got replies that silenced him finally and he decided not to post here any longer. In my opinion this was a great loss of knowledge that got lost for this forum.

I often read that I am sounding like a broken record. I am aware of that. But it is not always me who brings the same topic on the table. In many cases it was brought up by someone else. Furthermore every month new people are joining this forum either as readers only or reading AND posting. Since they do not know what happened in the past there is no harm if this topic is chewed once in a while.

On top of that it is the perfect contrast program to the brainwashing talk about

albino, het, double-het, motley, striped, anerythristic, erythristic, hypo, piebald, monstertail, snow, jungle, super-jungle, ghost, arabesque, square-tail, salmon hypo, black-muted, axanthic, melanistic, co-dominat, recessive, leucistic, calico, three-tone and so on and so forth....

Doesn't this sound like the ingredience of Frankensteins kitchen?

The beginners in this hobby should learn that there is something else possible as to meddle with Mother Natures critters in such a way.

My postings seem to be a threat to the financial interests of some breeders (small and big ones). Therefore often a harsh reactions arises. But this harms me the same way as it harms me when an old bicycle falls over in downtown Peking.

Other than for instance John Johnson I will not be silenced. And for those who don't like my postings:

Wait until my new book is released in the U.S. (it will leave the printing office in several weeks). It's the first one that is also printed in English language. And if you don't like my postings you will even more hate this book.

In order to avoid misunderstandings: I have already got the whole amount of money for this book. I will not have a financial advantage of it anymore no matter how often it is sold.
So don't insinuate now I just want to hype the book in order to get more money.
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Replies (8)

boavoyage Jun 29, 2003 02:44 PM

My postings seem to be a threat to the financial interests of some breeders (small and big ones). Therefore often a harsh reactions arises. But this harms me the same way as it harms me when an old bicycle falls over in downtown Peking.

This could be another of your assumptions. How can your posting be a threat when they are just gossips (I heard this, and I heard that), while they have no back-up information, research, or survey? Sometime, they were solely based on your "common knowledge."

Wait until my new book is released in the U.S. (it will leave the printing office in several weeks). It's the first one that is also printed in English language. And if you don't like my postings you will even more hate this book.

In order to avoid misunderstandings: I have already got the whole amount of money for this book. I will not have a financial advantage of it anymore no matter how often it is sold.
So don't insinuate now I just want to hype the book in order to get more money.

You may not get more money for this book, but you are looking forward for Volume 2, 2nd edition, etc... Come on Hermann! Who would pay you for another version if the first one couldn't make a sell?

People here don't hate you because of your knowledge, or because they think you are a threat to them financially. People just don't like you because you're rude and disrespectful. U.S. is a land of opportunity, an open market. Who cares about your comments! As long as you can supply people's demand, you have business.

JohnLokken Jun 29, 2003 02:58 PM

>>Let me share some thoughts with you: Someone remember John Johnson?

No, not really. That may be my loss. Or, maybe he posted under another name. Who knows? Your example doesn't really mean much to me though. I know of many.....many "professional" breeders both young and old that have quit using this forum. Bashing their animals and ideas were their reason for leaving as well. I have at times been VERY tempted to leave here as well. Things just get really old after a while. I am also one who thinks that people and their animals should be treated with respect. I myself have faultered in that area time to time. So, I am in no way better than anyone. I guess what I am saying is that your example doesn't mean much to me. I also know of some really great people that have left this forum as well. Now you know why I get so frustrated with you when you tell people their pets are mutts. You are just part of the problem. These new people that come on the forum share their animals only to have YOU belittle what they are proud of. You have mellowed quite a bit. And, I am thankful for that. But, you still do it. Maybe I am just overly sensitive now. I am just sick of it!

>>I often read that I am sounding like a broken record. I am aware of that. But it is not always me who brings the same topic on the table. In many cases it was brought up by someone else.

Very true. I have no problem with you stating you views on the topic.

>>On top of that it is the perfect contrast program to the brainwashing talk about
>>
>>albino, het, double-het, motley, striped, anerythristic, erythristic, hypo, piebald, monstertail, snow, jungle, super-jungle, ghost, arabesque, square-tail, salmon hypo, black-muted, axanthic, melanistic, co-dominat, recessive, leucistic, calico, three-tone and so on and so forth....
>>
>>Doesn't this sound like the ingredience of Frankensteins kitchen?

No, it sounds like a way to distinguish different characteristics that these animals possess. Sure, some are marketing tools. I really think everyone is aware of that. But, then again, if I had an animal that proved to have some type of genetic abnormality I think it would be fun to name it. I really don't see any type of brainwashing in it.

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>>The beginners in this hobby should learn that there is something else possible as to meddle with Mother Natures critters in such a way.

Oh, dear Jesus!!! Come on now. But, you taking wild caught animals out of the forest is any better? I think that is a MUCH bigger crime.

>>My postings seem to be a threat to the financial interests of some breeders (small and big ones). Therefore often a harsh reactions arises. But this harms me the same way as it harms me when an old bicycle falls over in downtown Peking.

I really don't know about that. Maybe....Maybe not. I really don't think what you say matters to them. If people like the morphs they are selling...They are going to buy them regardless of what you say. I think you are thinking a little too much of yourself. (Not to be rude)

>>Other than for instance John Johnson I will not be silenced. And for those who don't like my postings:
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>>Wait until my new book is released in the U.S. (it will leave the printing office in several weeks). It's the first one that is also printed in English language. And if you don't like my postings you will even more hate this book.
>>
>>In order to avoid misunderstandings: I have already got the whole amount of money for this book. I will not have a financial advantage of it anymore no matter how often it is sold.
>>So don't insinuate now I just want to hype the book in order to get more money.

I wish you the best of luck with your book. If I find it I will be sure to buy it.

John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

tommyboy Jun 29, 2003 04:46 PM

I very much look forward to it! As soon as it's available in the U.S. I will most certainly purchase it. If it's as good as your website I'm sure it will be great. Take care.

Tom

Rainshadow Jun 29, 2003 06:08 PM

John Johnson's posts quite well...he NEVER posted on this Forum with ANY regularity,on the contrary,he jumped on quite suddenly,and,out of the blue,began speaking as though he had a huge chip on his shoulder,and,began making a fool of himself...if he had any "great knowledge",he forgot to bring it with him when he came,because it certainly wasn't visible from anything he EVER posted here! he worked himself into a big dramatic "huff",and,then as suddenly as he appeared...he was gone *LOL* if you're going to put yourself in the same catagory,you won't get an arguement from me,though I think it's a bit odd,you two should be great together though! you could establish your own radical militant hate movement against anyone who dares to have a tolerant,intelligent thought of their own! *lol* as far as brainwashing...we'll leave that up to you,good luck with that! and,....a book? *lol* I hope it is mostly pictures.

H+E Stoeckl Jun 29, 2003 06:22 PM

... regarding John Johnsons postings.

For instance, here is one of Johns postings that I found very interesting. And this was not the only one. I hope this lines help to prove to the people that your lines are directed rather by antipathy than by facts.

Here is one of Johns postings:

It is true that:" Everyone has their own ideas about I.B.D. and other diseases and pathogens also. " We have learned over the years that: " Alot of the GREAT KILLER diseases were nothing more than improper husbandry and or the improper husbandry at the very least causing or leading to the diseases and eventual down fall of our reptiles." Here are a few examples:" We use to believe that too high of a humidity would cause BLISTER DISEASE. That is not true. Sitting around in urates and feces causes BLISTER DISEASE. It is like letting a baby child go all day with a pissy diper, it will get a rash. I give my boas and emeralds intense humidity and they love it and NO BLISTERS. We also use to think that, CRYPTOSPORIDIUM was causing regurges and deaths in emeralds. We now know that it was feedng to large of prey and keeping them too warm " improper husbandry " that was causing their deaths!" I believe that finding inclusion bodies in a snake that is being autopsied, is a poor indication of it dying from I.B.D. We all, including humans, have incusion bodies. I am not saying, " BY NO MEANS " that their are not VALID diseases in reptiles. I am sayig that, over the years we have tried to blame diseases on OUR reptiles dying, when it was ignorance in husbandry that was the number one KILLER. The number one killer of reptiles is improper husbandry in a captive enviroment. The number one disease in collections is psuedomonas," RESPIRATORY." As you said: " We all have different opinions." These are just some of mine......Good Luck....Johnson Herp
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Rainshadow Jun 29, 2003 07:11 PM

I think you tend to remember what you want,when it serves you best...yes,that's some real groudbreaking stuff you've got there!*lol* did you save any of his "all caps" tantrums too? please share some of those! My antipathy is reserved for those that only serve themselves.

IllianaReps Jun 29, 2003 07:17 PM

new line of mahogany whopper tails in there with those others!It is,I am sure you will agree,the ONLY one that is worthy of crossing with the nicest Surinames.Thanks for the support!

1mommasboy Jun 29, 2003 07:21 PM

Well I am to I just got one of them boas and do hope to X it with a super nice Xanax Suri. Will see want kind of boa this makes hopeing for the best

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