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Male Black Throats

draco Oct 28, 2004 04:01 PM

I have 2 male Black Throats, and I need space. Has anyone had luck keeping 2 males together. If this can be done, I have an enclosure 12' x 8'
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1.1 Jacksons (no names yet)
1.1 Argentine B/W Tegus (Draco and Drucilla)
0.1 Columbian B/W Tegu (Diablo)
2.0 Black Throat Monitors (Razor and Spike)
1.0 Desert Tortoise (Tubbs) from Tortoise Rescue
1.0 Boxer (Shadow)
0.1 Feline (CK)

Replies (7)

varanidfan Oct 28, 2004 07:15 PM

i have raised males together but when they start entering maturity the usually fight for dominance, nothing severe, but i have always seperated as soon as i have seen aggression. Im sure if left together it would be life or death. Have they been raised together? if so for how long?

draco Oct 28, 2004 07:23 PM

I've only had them 6 months (they are about 2 years old). I keep them seperate, except when I'm cleaning cages, they roam the bedroom together (no signs of aggression then)
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1.1 Jacksons (no names yet)
1.1 Argentine B/W Tegus (Draco and Drucilla)
0.1 Columbian B/W Tegu (Diablo)
2.0 Black Throat Monitors (Razor and Spike)
1.0 Desert Tortoise (Tubbs) from Tortoise Rescue
1.0 Boxer (Shadow)
0.1 Feline (CK)

kap10cavy Oct 28, 2004 07:47 PM

have you considered getting rid of one and buying or trading for a female? I am sure someone out there has found themself stuck with 2 females and would like a male.

Scott
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

varanidfan Oct 28, 2004 08:05 PM

there is a guy on varanusweb.com classifieds, that has a female for sale, check it out if your interested, i was but i bought a female white throat of KS classifieds

crocdoc2 Oct 28, 2004 08:16 PM

I've never kept blackthroats, but I do know that with the species I keep (V varius) there are no hard and fast rules as to what happens when males are kept together and you may find it is the same with blackthroats.

For either species, most people would tell you that two males will definitely not get along, that they'll fight for dominance eventually ending in the death of one of them. The only times I've introduced adult male V varius outside of their enclosures, they wrestled for dominance, but my breeding pair (which get along 24/7 inside their enclosure) also react in a similar way when introduced outside of that enclosure - the male puts on a dominance display and chases the female around. Very inconclusive. I also know of many people keeping groups of V varius in mixed lots of males and females without problems. One local fauna park swears that the best way to display them is to house several males together and they'll get along provided there are no females, while other people I know have two or three males together in enclosures with three or more females.

There are, of course, also plenty of stories of males fighting and doing tremendous amounts of damage.

And there are cases of opposite gender 'pairs' of monitors in which the males have killed the female, and vice versa.

So, in the end, no one here can guarantee that they'll fight or that they'll get along. Your chances of them getting along might improve, however, if you traded one of the males for a female.

SHvar Oct 28, 2004 09:30 PM

But most not for long. Ive seen males bully others, and a female almost kill a male, one bite with an adult BT that can crush a tortoise in its jaws can kill another, they do know how to kill fast or slowly, watch for the signs and hope your right. Good luck.
I agree completely.

draco Oct 29, 2004 10:16 AM

Thanks, I think I'll start with some supervised time together, and see how it goes.
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1.1 Jacksons (no names yet)
1.1 Argentine B/W Tegus (Draco and Drucilla)
0.1 Columbian B/W Tegu (Diablo)
2.0 Black Throat Monitors (Razor and Spike)
1.0 Desert Tortoise (Tubbs) from Tortoise Rescue
1.0 Boxer (Shadow)
0.1 Feline (CK)

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