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I'm not being confrontational at all , but in regards to these animals that Mike Jolliff is posting . Are they qaulified as "Super Tigers " because they exhibit extreme reduction in pattern , or they are the product of 2 "Tiger " Ball Pythons breeding ?(Het for Axanthic of course ). I have 2 females(Twins) that look almost identical to these "Super tigers " , and neither parent looked remotely tiger at all . Tiger seems to be catagorized by an extreme reduction in pattern , which these animal DO exhibit....but Supers????????

If I can answer on my behalf - I call them "Super Tigers" because they are the most reduced animals from my bloodline I have seen & I have been breeding for bandeds & pattern reduction for since the late 90's. I think they are "Super" - not because they are bred from two Tigers (which I explained in the ad & even posted a pic. of the father) but because I think they are special - "Super" special. In this case, super is merely an adjective. I do think there is something genetic as 1.2 animals from the litter had the same distinguishable pattern. A fourth animal (which was Axanthic) had a typical wild-type pattern. I would bet that if you bred your twins out, you would produce banded reduced pattern animals. Time will tell what will happen when these animals are bred to ea. other. Let's see pix of your twins. Are they reduced w/ a connecting stripe on the entire last half of their bodies? Not trying to be confrontational - just curious about your animals. Again, here is a pic. of the father & the mother was one of his offspring & had even less pattern reduction but was as equally banded.

We have proven this line to be genetic and have super tiger babies......there is a tiger form and this form our super tiger........when she is bred to a normal we get 100% tigers and when she was bred to one of her tiger offspring the resulting clutch contained tigers and SUPER tigers...identical replicas of their mom...

Thanks......Mike Haralambis & Eric Daley
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Mike and Eric
Captive Bred Reptiles

Yeah. .good question, and equally good answer. I was curious about this myself. Seeing the genetic 'Super Tiger' ones produced by Captive Bred Reptiles I assumed that perhaps they were a combined genetics. None the less I'm a strong believer in the genetic reduced pattern balls. I feel it is recessive. Both morphs are wonderful. Best of luck with these projects.

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Violette Garcia
www.shakahnsgrove.com

And we have the origional female super tiger breeding now with one of her sons that is even more reduced patterned then the male we used last year....so hopefully we will get even more reduced super tigers this year we have seen them locked up so we should be getting eggs...

Here is a pic of one of the Supers we produced this year....

and here is the best one that hatched.....

Thanks......Mike Haralambis & Eric Daley
Captive Bred Reptiles
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Mike and Eric
Captive Bred Reptiles

I've tried to contact you several times via email & failed to get a response. I called your home # (?) once but a lady said you wouldn't be home until 7 p.m. & I never called back. Have you bred Super Tiger X Super Tiger?

No we have not! But this year will be the first time breeding supertiger to tiger and we hope to next year! thank's Eric & Mike dnedaley@aol.com or boaboy00@aol.com