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slackajack Nov 01, 2004 12:09 AM

We need a children's python forum (spotted's, children's, stimsons, and pygmy's). There are many more people that have these snakes than all the venemous snakes put together, but you still have many forums for them.

The children's pythons have special needs like all types of snakes and can't just go under the BP forum. Many people have these snakes and they are gaining populatiry very quickly. Make a forum for children's pythons, even just change one of the useless, unused forums to a children's python forum. We need a forum for these snakes.
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1.0 Spotted python (Harry)
0.0.1 Stimsons python (Garry)
1.1 Evil dictators (Mum & Dad)

Replies (8)

panther13half Nov 01, 2004 11:12 AM

you know ....if they did that then there should be a forum for all species.....in fact the bairdi, and the black rat need their own forum because theres 3 times the keepers of those than childrens pythons......food for thought

hmmmmm

actually noone minds seein pics and learning about new snakes in ratsnakes (or any other forum).......so, me for one....am happy as it is...

lol

keith
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I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.

cnb2 Nov 01, 2004 01:49 PM

Well what i would like is a forum for madagascar boas. dumerils, madagascar ground boas and madagascar tree boas. I believe these are unique enough to deserve their own forum.

TallTex Nov 01, 2004 06:22 PM

I second the motion. As a first time pet snake owner, I had never heard of a spotted python. For a few months, I studied kingsnake.com and other websites, in search of the right first snake for me. However, until I was shown a spotted python by a local breeder, I had no idea that they were an option. After seeing one, I began researching and I was able to find more information but without ever seeing a specific forum for them, I really had no idea what they were. I think that a lot of beginners who need something that doesn't grow to be huge, totally discount the pythons unless they consider a Ball; which is still a snake that gets much thicker than this group. Perhaps having a specific forum for the smaller pythons would increase awareness and offer a python option and advice to these first timers such as myself.

Just my 2 cents on the subject!

crtoon83 Nov 01, 2004 09:16 PM

It has been clearly been said that there are a lot of smaller groupings of snakes that are seperate and should be given their own forum on here. However there are many things that need to be considered when they decide to do this, but the main two are how many people will actually be using this forum, and how different is the species that it needs its own spot.

Now I'll be honest with everyone here and now...I know next to nothing about pythons. I stick to rat snakes...still learning all the others. When it was mentioned before that if they did a sub forum for childrens pythons that texas rats and black rats and etc.. should have their own sub forums. The deal with this is all north american rat snakes (that i know of) require the same husbandry. I don't know about childrens vs any other python.

This may be something like splitting corn snakes from rat snakes. Same thing basically, bur corns are so highly sought after that they could justify a forum just due to the traffic.

Thats just my 2 cents.
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slackajack Nov 02, 2004 12:04 AM

Pythons all have the same basic husbandry (Water, food, heat, hide, branch, rock) so it really doesn't matter. I could find out what I need to know about my jungle carpet by looking up a retic care sheet. What I want is a specific children's python group to talk about childrens pythons, just like the boa froums seem to be like. The color, the size, breeding technigues etc. There are other snake forums that should be there, like people mentioned, and there are some forums that are really pretty usless and unused, I'd just like to see a chuldren's python group forum put up for people that want to talk about that snake specifically.
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Everlight389 Nov 02, 2004 03:46 PM

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PHWyvern Nov 02, 2004 09:46 PM

My honest opinion on the matter is this:

Traffic (number of threads/posts made by folks on a particular subject) is the basis I prefer to use for trying to decide if a request for a new forum is something that would work or not (unless the big boss man overrides and wants a new forum anyway). Traffic therefore tends to be the driving force on what gets a new forum and what does not. Popularity alone is not always going to be enough. We need to be able to justify the needs of the members versus our ability to support new forums with sponsors and/or with sufficient traffic (which attracts the advertisers). As much as I would love to create indivdiual forums for all types of species, it's just not always possible.

To give an idea of how the python forums compare to one another: (this is a generalized monthly average)

Pythons: General Forum
-- 350 threads / 1,250 posts / 12 sponsors

Pythons: Ball
-- 390 threads / 2,100 posts / 12 sponsors

Pythons: Blood
-- 90 threads / 550 posts / 3 sponsors

Pythons: Burmese
-- 90 threads / 400 posts / 6 sponsors

Pythons: Carpet/Diamond
-- 65 threads / 250 posts / 2 sponsors

Pythons: Green Tree
-- 30 threads / 100 posts / 7 sponsors

Pythons: Reticulated
-- 45 threads / 200 posts / 6 sponsors

The green tree python and reticulated python forums may not be very active compared to the others, but they have the backing of several sponsors to help keep them going. The Carpet/Diamond python forum is actually a bit higher than the numbers suggest since there are folks who like to post discussions about Morelia species. in the General Python Forum but not always in the other forum too.

Womas/BHPs/Aspidites and childrens/spotteds/Antaresia are the two most logical python combos that currently seem to be the most "popular" on the general python forum and would theoretically speaking stand the best chance at a forum of their own. However, looking at them more closely, each of those groupings seem to be running about dead even on generating 6 threads / 24 posts per month (on average). The traffic is not sufficient to really justify splitting either of those groupings out from the general python forum without the benefit of sponsors to help back the forum(s) up.

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slackajack Nov 02, 2004 10:59 PM

Yeah, but people don't only post in the Snakes General forum. There's also a python forum, which is where I mainly post my Children's python questions. People post questions about the Anterasia group there too. I've generated 7 posts just from this question. Why don't you just see if you can get any sponsers. Or at least, make a notice where people can post Anterasia group questions (such as the Python forum), instead of them being all over the place. I'm sure you can get more sponsers for the Children's pythons than the Carpet pythons.

Children's pythons are aslo a "beginners" snake, and I think someone new to herpetology, who has recently bought a children's python, would benifit from a site where they could ask question about that specific snake. It would also help to increase awareness and promote good keeping and safety of the snake itself. Someone who doesn't know much about children's pythons, but has an important husbandry question, would not know where to make the post.

I think it is important for the snakes health and safety that there be an Anterasia group forum.
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0.0.1 Stimsons python (Garry)
1.1 Evil dictators (Mum & Dad)

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