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Tangerine Hondurans

silentjohn Nov 03, 2004 03:43 AM

Hi,
I'm just now returning after a couple years self imposed exile from the internet. One of my favorite Snakes has been the Honduran Milks, particularly the Tangerines. Back in the day what we (myself and my ring of other snake afficianados) called Tangerine Hondurans, had a couple things criteria wise that we felt made a Tangerine. One was that the middle ring was the same color as the outer rings, and two was they usually had a low band count (orange was relatively much wider), like a Sinaloan. Bob Cochran, Lloyd Lemke, had some real nice lines, and of course there were the Love "dreams" and the Damm lines.
Lately I have seen tons of photos being labeled as Tangerines, especially Albinos, but normals as well, that one, have the middle ring not the same color (appear to be no different than tricolor, and when I had my Love's and Lemke's, they were bicolor at hatching, so I'm thinking they don't grow out of it?) and two, have thin bands (high band count) as high as normal if not more.
My questions are, Were my prior "definitions" not correct? And two, are there any of the "top of the line" Dreams or Damms around anymore, or have they all been bred into the Albino lines (which I haven't seen any with as near as wide bands as the above)?
John

Replies (2)

shannon brown Nov 04, 2004 12:25 AM

John,

I couldn't have said it better.I have always thought that the true tangerine hondurans should be low band count and have the same color inner bands as outer bands,

I still have a tangerine I bought from Loyd Lemke in (94)and I will post a pic of him.

I also have some nice clean dreams and just generic tangerines that I am trying to infuse to the albino lines.

In my mind you can have a tangerine albino that has high bands and short outer bands but the two shades of orange(tangerine) should be the same color.
Thats what qualifies a tangerine albino to me.

shannon brown

metalpest Nov 09, 2004 07:18 PM

I dont think Ive seen a tangerine albino with same colored inner and outer bands. Im also wondering about the genetics of tangerines. Someone breed two tangerines together and a few tricolors popped out, so are tangerines dominant? Or is it multiple genes working out these colors, like patterns in cal kings?

It looks like we will be at IRBA Pomona, you?

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