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T- albino Florida king

bluerosy Nov 04, 2004 12:13 AM

This is my 3 year old female. YThey are white with pink speckling on top. I kept all the '03 babies she produced last year and this years offspring as well . I am conviced of the history on the T- albino florida but no convinced on the look.
The original wildcaught pair came from Glades herp and sold to a guy in calif who bred the Wildcaughts and produced one of these "white" T- albinos. He went to prison and left his snakes to rot. A zoo keeper was able to rescue the one white albino from the mans apt while the original WC pair was dead. Later the late Lloyd Lemke contacted the zoo keeper and asked to use that T- albino for a breeding loan because he had a high red brooks he wanted to breed it to. He did and produced hets. Later the original T- breeder died and out of the hets that Lloyd bred only one pair survived and produced some T- babies of which I acquired a pair. Evidently the others escaped during Lloyds illness. SO I ended up with the only remaining pair of albinos.

Even though two trusted herpetoculturists were involved in the history of these T- albinos. The orginal wildcaught pair came from a felon who bought the wildcaught pair from Glades. Which allows room for their purity.

So what do you think? Do these look like a hybrid cali X floridana? I have seen many albino calif king X florida king hybrids and none looked like this.

3 year old female:

1 year old male(baby to the mother above)some have less red on top than this one. I just used him because she has the most red. The other looks similar to the female above:

Replies (3)

foxturtle Nov 04, 2004 08:13 AM

Well, they don't really look impure to me. The male at the bottom has really yellow crossbars, which I haven't really seen in W/C FL kings, though I did produce a hatchling with really yellow crossbars from an ugly, gravid, W/C female that I found in the sugarcane fields. The cal/fl crosses I've seen usually have funny looking (patternwise) lip-scales, even the ones that were 87% FL king... but then again, the snake pictured below, which is from a friend's collection, I'm pretty sure is a cal/fl cross, yet it retains a very FL king pattern, and the head and lip scales don't look too out of the ordinary.

The history on your albinos is a little questionable. I'm left wondering how it is known that the original albino came from the W/C pair. From records left at the felon's house? From the guy bragging about his albino FL King?

I have met a collector who hatched out a male albino FL king from a wildcaught gravid female (from the canefields) many years ago. I was hearing the story from a friend of his, but I'm confident in its accuracy. The snake apparently was bred a few times, but there didn't seem to be too much effort to produce more albinos. It stayed in the collection of the original collector until it aged and died.

bluerosy Nov 04, 2004 10:13 AM

The history on your albinos is a little questionable. I'm left wondering how it is known that the original albino came from the W/C pair. From records left at the felon's house? From the guy bragging about his albino FL King?

The zookeeper (Bill Corwin) knew the felon before he was hauled off to prison.

Irregardless the snake looks like it has calif king in it to me.

thomas davis Nov 04, 2004 03:50 PM

thats cool i always thought that albinism was introduced into fla.kings same w/easterns,just to many rumors and no facts, and you know as well as anyone rainer its EASY to do, i infact believe it can be done and that the ssp can be bred true again except now w/the amel gene in it,(take a few generations) im certain that this is how all the different ssp of getula are now producing albinos, at anyrate they are cool heres mine from john cherry,who told me it is pure brooksi,,,,,,,,
thomas

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