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Just wondering peoples thoughts and feelings about this

venomousviper04 Nov 12, 2004 12:37 PM

Melissa Kaplan's
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Last updated August 11, 2002

Reptile Not Repulsive - But Keeping Them Is

Nicholas Read, Vancouver Sun, September 1995

 

These are Clifford Warwick’s credentials: He has a doctorate in animal behaviour with a specialty in reptile studies from the University of Copenhagen; he is the director of the International Institute of Herpetology, a worldwide scientific research group dedicated to the study of reptiles; he is a consultant to dozens of zoos and conservation groups on the subject of reptiles and reptile care; and he is the director of the Reptile Protection Trust, a British-based campaigning organization.

He’s also a former reptile-keeper. Over a period of years, he kept more than 100 species in a house in London. He was always interested in reptiles as a boy, so when the opportunity came to acquire them as an adult, he took it. And took it and took it. Thus if anyone is qualified to say whether reptiles make suitable pets, Warwick is.

And his verdict: " Absolutely not." It is impossible, he says, for anyone to give a reptile proper care outside the wild.

All his animals died prematurely. But like so many other so-called enthusiasts before and after him, he just kept replacing the animals with new ones. That, he now says, was a mistake, not just for the animals, but for him, too.

"I think I would have learned more and sooner if I had not kept those animals, he said in a phone interview from his home in Worcester, England. "I was being misdirected because the biologists and vets I spoke to didn’t know what they were talking about."

That was 20 years ago. Scientists know more now than they did then, but still not enough to advise anyone how to keep a reptile properly in captivity. Because there is no proper way, Warwick says.

"Few people realize just how dramatically even a minor disturbance can affect wildlife," he writes in a forthcoming book on the exotic animal trade.

"For example, during a study of lizard behaviour in Costa Rica, it was noted that eye contact alone between the iguanas and observers was sufficiently alarming to dissuade the reptiles from returning to their normally prized arboreal perches for the remaining days of the research.

"It is simply not possible to even enter a species’ natural habitat, let alone remove a single individual, and have reason to believe that no harm is being done."

Yet, Warwick says, more that 300,000 animals are removed from the wild every year to feed the worldwide demand for exotic pets. Most of them die long before they’re adults.

Sixteen thousand of these animals arrive in Vancouver.

Most of them die, too, says Agriculture Canada, but a few make it into pet shops where they are sold to people who think it is cool to own an iguana, a boa, a python or a tortoise, despite not having the slightest idea of how to look after one.

But then there is no way to look after one, says Warwick. The best, richest zoos can try, but even they can’t reproduce wild conditions adequately. People who keep reptiles in their houses are just being cruel.

This is the opinion of arguably the foremost reptile expert in the world. Yet every day in pet shops throughout the Lower Mainland and British Columbia, iguanas and boas and pythons and tortoises are sold for large sums to people who have no idea of the harm they are doing to them.

And it’s all perfectly legal. No government at any level has seen fit yet to do the right thing and prohibit the commercial sale of reptiles and amphibians. Langley Township has come closest by banning the sale of some dangerous reptiles, but iguanas, boas, pythons and turtles are still okay.

Except they’re not okay. Not anywhere except where nature intended them to be. Just ask Clifford Warwick. He ought to know.

Replies (2)

venomousviper04 Nov 12, 2004 12:41 PM

I had read this article from Melissa Kaplan's website. I feel that there are positives and negatives of the subject. I just thought I would hear other experienced herpers feelings and thoughts. I would also like to take the time to thank Melissa Kaplan for having that post on her website. It gives everyone something to think about.

cdieter Nov 12, 2004 03:20 PM

Well he has a right to an opinion, and so do I.

I feel on some level he has a valid point. Wild caught animals do not fare well as a whole with shipping and adaptation stress.A good percentage die as a result. However CB animals do better. But not all of them are well cared for either.

Much of his argument could be used for any group of animals from dogs/cats to birds, fish, and horses. The care level is as varied as the keepers with them as well. I see few advocating the inhumane care goldfish are receiving in bowls.

Saying that you cannot recreate nature is true, however this doesn't mean the animals cannot be successfully kept healthy and happy. There are also tangible benefits to well cared for captives. Longer, healthier lives being first and foremost.

People like to throw around the beauty of nature as an argument. It is a nice fanciful Eden. But thats all it is fantasy. In reality it is red in tooth and claw. And while yes in a serene perfect world all animals would remain in pristine wild habitats the real world just isn't so. There is very little peace, it's eat and be eaten.

Captive breeding , education, and zoos all help increase awareness in the population and benefit wild species. A ban on the keeping of reptiles would be detrimental to many species.

That being said all keepers of any wild species should endeavor to provide supreme care for the captives.

The truth is people believe much of what tradition tells them. Reptiles are slimy and they have no place in captivity is the thought of many. As preeminent Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins would state 'tradition is a very bad reason for believing anything'.
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CDieter
'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

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