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so far. Feel free to correct or inquire if needed.

1. Aberrant Pinstripe
2. T- Albino
3. T+ Albino
4. Albino Spider
5. Amber Pastel
6. Angolan Ball
7. Axanthic
8. Axanthic Pastel
9. Banded
10. Black-Blacked
11. Black Head
12. Black Velvet Stripe
13. Blonde Pastel
14. Blonde Pastel Lesser Platty
15. Brown Back
16. Bubble Gum
17. Bumblebee Spider
18. Burgundy
19. Butter Ball
20. Caramel Glow
21. Chocolate Pinstripe
22. Cinnamon Pastel
23. Clown
24. Congo Jungle
25. Congo Pastel
26. Coral Glow
27. Desert Ghost
28. Extreme Hypo
29. Genetic Stripe
30. Granite
31. Green Hypo
32. Ghost Spider
33. Halloween Ball
34. Hypo Mohave
35. Hypo Pinstripe
36. Ivory
37. Jet Black
38. Killer Bee Spider
39. Lavender Albino
40. Lemon Blast
41. Lemon Pastel
42. Lesser Platinum
43. Leucistic_ Black Eye
44. Leucistic_ Blue Eye
45. Mohave
46. Normal
47. Orange Hypo
48. Pastel Butter
49. Pastel Ghost
50. Pastel Jungle
51. Pastel Lesser Platinum
52. Pastel Phantom
53. Pastel Yellow Belly
54. Patternless
55. Peach Ghost
56. Pearl
57. Pewter Pastel
58. Phantom
59. Phantom Platinum
60. Piebald
61. Pinstripe
62. Platinum
63. Red Axanthic
64. Reduced Pattern
65. Silver Pastel
66. Snow
67. Spider Webbed
68. Spider Mohave
69. Spinner
70. Spot Nose
71. Stone Washed Pastel
72. Super Ball
73. Super Cinnamon Pastel
74. Super Pastel
75. Super Pastel Ghost
76. Tiger
77. Velvet Pastel Jungle
78. White Sided/ Calico
79. Whitesmoke Albino
80. Woma Pastel Spider
81. Woma Tiger
82. Yellow Belly
83. Yellow Ghost

np

Most of them are, probably 1 or 2 listed are not genetic.

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2.1 Ball pythons
1.0 Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1 albino Cranwell's horned frog
1.0 bearded dragon
1.0 Tiger salamander
1.1 breeding Clawed frogs
1.0 black kittycat
3.1 Oscar cichlids
0.1 Paint horse mare

Cutting Edge Herpticulture made them, Het black paternless ball; co-dominant.

Debra

Camlon Reptiles

Thanks.

1. Aberrant Pinstripe
2. T- Albino
3. T Albino
4. Albino Spider
5. Amber Pastel
6. Angolan Ball
7. Axanthic
8. Axanthic Pastel
9. Banded
10. Black-Blacked
11. Black Head
12. Black Velvet Stripe
13. Blonde Pastel
14. Blonde Pastel Lesser Platty
15. Brown Back
16. Bubble Gum
17. Bumblebee Spider
18. Burgundy
19. Butter Ball
20. Caramel Glow
21. Chocolate Pinstripe
22. Cinnamon Pastel
23. Clown
24. Congo Jungle
25. Congo Pastel
26. Coral Glow
27. Desert Ghost
28. Extreme Hypo
29. Genetic Stripe
30. Granite
31. Green Hypo
32. Ghost Spider
33. Halloween Ball
34. Hypo Mohave
35. Hypo Pinstripe
36. Ivory
37. *Jaguar*
38. Jet Black
39. Killer Bee Spider
40. Lavender Albino
41. Lemon Blast
42. Lemon Pastel
43. Lesser Platinum
44. Leucistic_ Black Eye
45. Leucistic_ Blue Eye
46. Mohave
47. Normal
48. Orange Hypo
49. Pastel Butter
50. Pastel Ghost
51. Pastel Jungle
52. Pastel Lesser Platinum
53. *Pastel Mohave*
54. Pastel Phantom
55. Pastel Yellow Belly
56. Patternless
57. Peach Ghost
58. Pearl
59. Pewter Pastel
60. Phantom
61. Phantom Platinum
62. Piebald
63. Pinstripe
64. Platinum
65. Red Axanthic
66. Reduced Pattern
67. Silver Pastel
68. Snow
69. Spider Webbed
70. Spider Mohave
71. Spinner
72. Spot Nose
73. Stone Washed Pastel
74. Super Ball
75. Super Cinnamon Pastel
76. Super Pastel
77. Super Pastel Ghost
78. Tiger
79. Velvet Pastel Jungle
80. White Sided/ Calico
81. Whitesmoke Albino
82. Woma Pastel Spider
83. Woma Tiger
84. Yellow Belly
85. Yellow Ghost

1. Abberant Pinstripe (????????)
6. Velvet Stripe (????)
21. Chocolate Pinstripe (When did "chocolate" become a morph?)
28. Extreme Hypo (new morph?? rip off?)
38. Jet Black (????)
41. Lemon Blast (What?)
61. Phantom Platinum (wasn't the "phantom x lesser" didn't it make only phantoms, lessers, and leucys?)
71. Spinner (????)
72. Spot Nose (????)
74. Super Ball (WHAT???/)
79. Velvet PastAngolan Ball (not a morph...a hybrid)
12. Blackel Jungle (WHo? when? what does it look like)
82. Woma Pastel Spider (Has this EVER been produced? most likely the woma and spider would cancel each other out somehow)

Also
it is MoJave
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

"scientia est vox"

Spinner - Spider x Pinstripe, B.H.B. Enterprises
http://www.jasons-jungle.com/narbc03.html
(search for spinner)

Lemon Blast - Pastel x Pinstripe, B.H.B. Enterprises
http://www.constrictors.com/images/BallPythons/lemonblast.jpg

Spot Nose - Named by Tracy Barker if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.vpi.com/4VPIInventory/VPIPriceList/BallPicPages/SpotnoserBallPicPage.htm

George Knaack
GLK HERP

1. Abberant Pinstripe-BHB produced some weird pins from a weird female...just called them abberant pins...I think ralph has pics...
6. Velvet Stripe-not sure...
21. Chocolate Pinstripe-BHB...same with the abberant....
28. Extreme Hypo-This is a line produced by the Snake Keeper...
38. Jet Black- NERD's got some type of jet black ball...I don't think its proven yet though...
41. Lemon Blast- BHB....Pinstripe x Pastel....you should see it now...
61. Phantom Platinum- Ralph said some type of weird cross came from it so I guess this is where it came from...but Ralph is even unsure of it at this point...
71. Spinner- BHB...Sider X Pinstripe...you should see this one now too....
72. Spot Nose- VPI makes em....
74. Super Ball- Blood X Ball...Roussis Reptiles has adults...
79. Velvet Pastel Angolan Ball- not exactly sure on this one either so I'll stay away from it...
12. Blackel Jungle-not sure....
82. Woma Pastel Spider- NERD has these...they call them Wannabees
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

"scientia est vox"

I saw them at the NARBC show in Anaheim. THey are very nice patterned ball pythons!!!

Michael Ibanez

A year or two ago I asked the Barkers if anybody had run the tyrosinase test on any ball pythons, and they said no. Unless things have changed since, we don't know whether any ball pythons are T-negative albino.

Paul Hollander

Thanks, for the info. I commonly use T- and T albino

1. Aberrant Pinstripe
2. *Albino*
3. Albino Spider
4. Amber Pastel
5. Angolan Ball
6. Axanthic
7. Axanthic Pastel
8. Banded
9. Black-Blacked
10. Black Head
11. Black Velvet Stripe
12. Blonde Pastel
13. Blonde Pastel Lesser Platty
14. Brown Back
15. Bubble Gum
16. Bumblebee Spider
17. Burgundy
18. Butter Ball
19. *Caramel Albino*
20. Caramel Glow
21. Chocolate Pinstripe
22. Cinnamon Pastel
23. Clown
24. Congo Jungle
25. Congo Pastel
26. Coral Glow
27. Desert Ghost
28. Extreme Hypo
29. Genetic Stripe
30. Granite
31. Green Hypo
32. Ghost Spider
33. Halloween Ball
34. Hypo Mohave
35. Hypo Pinstripe
36. Ivory
37. Jet Black
38. Killer Bee Spider
39. Lavender Albino
40. Lemon Blast
41. Lemon Pastel
42. Lesser Platinum
43. Leucistic_ Black Eye
44. Leucistic_ Blue Eye
45. Mohave
46. Normal
47. Orange Hypo
48. Pastel Butter
49. Pastel Ghost
50. Pastel Jungle
51. Pastel Lesser Platinum
52. Pastel Phantom
53. Pastel Yellow Belly
54. Patternless
55. Peach Ghost
56. Pearl
57. Pewter Pastel
58. Phantom
59. Phantom Platinum
60. Piebald
61. Pinstripe
62. Platinum
63. Red Axanthic
64. Reduced Pattern
65. Silver Pastel
66. Snow
67. Spider Webbed
68. Spider Mohave
69. Spinner
70. Spot Nose
71. Stone Washed Pastel
72. Super Ball
73. Super Cinnamon Pastel
74. Super Pastel
75. Super Pastel Ghost
76. Tiger
77. Velvet Pastel Jungle
78. White Sided/ Calico
79. Whitesmoke Albino
80. Woma Pastel Spider
81. Woma Tiger
82. Yellow Belly
83. Yellow Ghost

like an "H", but the correct spelling is with a with a "J", Mojave just like the famous Mojave Desert (See The Snake Keepers site for details on the naming). Not picking just making a needed correction to the list. Link to the Desert site:

http://www.desertusa.com/du_mojave.html

Debra
Camlon Reptiles

sorry should of said Pastave.

because its Motel....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

because we produced one this year also and are calling it a Pastel Mojave not a Pastave, which would sound like Pas Tave (tave sounds like have with a t?).

The Pastel Mojave we produced will be in an upcoming issue (March 2005 I was told) of Reptiles Magazine for the 2004 IRBA/Reptiles Magazine Vivarium Contest winners. He won First Place for Ball Pythons and Second Place for Best in Show, and we called him a Pastel Mojave. So as you can see we have one morph with 2 names, so that ups the number of morphs right.

Just having a little fun!

Debra
Camlon Reptiles

>>so far. Feel free to correct or inquire if needed.

Angolan Balls are hybrids not morphs. Any a few like some of the pastels and the hypos are variations on the same morph. And 'Normal' is not considered a morph, its considered the norm.

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>>1. Aberrant Pinstripe
>>2. T- Albino
>>3. T Albino
>>4. Albino Spider
>>5. Amber Pastel
>>6. Angolan Ball
>>7. Axanthic
>>8. Axanthic Pastel
>>9. Banded
>>10. Black-Blacked
>>11. Black Head
>>12. Black Velvet Stripe
>>13. Blonde Pastel
>>14. Blonde Pastel Lesser Platty
>>15. Brown Back
>>16. Bubble Gum
>>17. Bumblebee Spider
>>18. Burgundy
>>19. Butter Ball
>>20. Caramel Glow
>>21. Chocolate Pinstripe
>>22. Cinnamon Pastel
>>23. Clown
>>24. Congo Jungle
>>25. Congo Pastel
>>26. Coral Glow
>>27. Desert Ghost
>>28. Extreme Hypo
>>29. Genetic Stripe
>>30. Granite
>>31. Green Hypo
>>32. Ghost Spider
>>33. Halloween Ball
>>34. Hypo Mohave
>>35. Hypo Pinstripe
>>36. Ivory
>>37. Jet Black
>>38. Killer Bee Spider
>>39. Lavender Albino
>>40. Lemon Blast
>>41. Lemon Pastel
>>42. Lesser Platinum
>>43. Leucistic_ Black Eye
>>44. Leucistic_ Blue Eye
>>45. Mohave
>>46. Normal
>>47. Orange Hypo
>>48. Pastel Butter
>>49. Pastel Ghost
>>50. Pastel Jungle
>>51. Pastel Lesser Platinum
>>52. Pastel Phantom
>>53. Pastel Yellow Belly
>>54. Patternless
>>55. Peach Ghost
>>56. Pearl
>>57. Pewter Pastel
>>58. Phantom
>>59. Phantom Platinum
>>60. Piebald
>>61. Pinstripe
>>62. Platinum
>>63. Red Axanthic
>>64. Reduced Pattern
>>65. Silver Pastel
>>66. Snow
>>67. Spider Webbed
>>68. Spider Mohave
>>69. Spinner
>>70. Spot Nose
>>71. Stone Washed Pastel
>>72. Super Ball
>>73. Super Cinnamon Pastel
>>74. Super Pastel
>>75. Super Pastel Ghost
>>76. Tiger
>>77. Velvet Pastel Jungle
>>78. White Sided/ Calico
>>79. Whitesmoke Albino
>>80. Woma Pastel Spider
>>81. Woma Tiger
>>82. Yellow Belly
>>83. Yellow Ghost
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Chad Bachman

Still a Morph...

"Still a Morph..."

So is a snow corn snake but neither are ball pythons. A hybrid isn't even anything.

>Still a morph.

I a sense yeah, but not really.

Like MarkS said above, "Some of the ones listed are just variations of the same morphs", and would not be considered a different morph, just a different name, from a different breeder.
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Chad Bachman

chicklet or chiclet.......spell check?........haven't chewed it lately........

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SEE YOU AT VALLEY FORGE SHOW..........!!!!!!!!!!!

lol......SATURDAY MORNING..........

Yeah I'll be there Sunday with all my fingers!!! see ya???

what is with all the finger references lately?
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I'm about as shapeless as the man in the moon!

I have no idea who bpmachine is.....

everyone hides under fake names........
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could you be more specific?

not really.....don't remember who's table it was at....everyone had balls....corner table...

chicklet ball it said...resembled the bubblegum without pinks/reds....had that white "patches" on the sides.....

resembled them things Pete Kahl just brought in...

I figured chicklet was gum and it had no red so they couldn't call it bubblegum........

......no price either on it I don't think.......
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I think the chicklet was 40k and the bubblegum was 60k. I beleive it was Doug Beards table.
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-Dennis

chicklet & Bubblegum are different? I thought I saw the Chicklet, and it looked like a calico/Bubblegum, but I may be way off base though.

Thanks,
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Chad Bachman

I beleive the Chicklet is what they were originally calling calico. I'm pretty sure the chicklets and bubblegums hatched from the same clutch, they posted pictures a few months ago. Maybe co-dom, and the b-gum is the homozygous.
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-Dennis

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Chad Bachman

Looked just like Ralph's Bubblegum Ball.
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Chad Bachman

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Chad Bachman

Pics of it in the new Reptiles mag...damn does BHB have some crap or what...and I bet he's got some secret stuff on the back shelves too....hmmmm....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

Albino Ghost
Banana
Black Pastel
Burgundy Albino
Butter Spider
Citrus Hypo
Ebony
Enchi Pastel
Super Blonde Pastel

Thanks, for the corrections everybody. I didn't mean spelling corrections.lol. I have seen the Burgundy Albino on Ralph's site under unproven traits so I did not list it. So, it looks like there is way more morphs than I typed. I'm only 13, sorry. My dad and I have been breeding these snakes for three years.

PARAGON

MARBLE PASTEL

YELLOW BELLY STRIPE

some of your names are duplicated.
for example: bumble gum/calico
banana/coral albino/whitesmoke
yellow belly/phantom
Pastel yellow belly/pastel phantom
Lesser phantom/lesser yellow belly

I thought it was a different RDR ball that he thought might be a yellow belly. I don't remember the name but it's the one he bred the phantom to the first two years.

At first they thought phantom = Mojave but then they didn't and now it's looking more like they are at least related.

Goblin n/p