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Pet Store Hygiene Problem!! ~~(LONG)~~

rob1217r Nov 14, 2004 02:54 AM

I recently went to a pet store (the name and location I will keep unsaid) and the living conditions of the snakes were atrocious! At least I think they were atrocious. Maybe they were normal for a pet store carrying larger snakes. You tell me what you think.

There were three tanks in particular that bothered me. The first of which was what looked like only a 3 gallon plastic cage (the kind you keep a pet hamster in) that was housing a young (about 2 years) ball python. There was no hide box, no water, no substrate, and no heating devices AT ALL!!!

The next cage was a 55 long tank that was housing a juvenile burmese python (about 5 feet long), a mid-sized carpet python (about 5 feet), and two mid sized boa constrictors (about 4 or 5 feet each). All in the same 55 long tank!! And there was enough shedded skin and piss on the bottom of the cage to cover 70% of it. I'm not talking recent shed or piss either. There was piss, then shed, then piss on top of the shed, then more shed and more piss on the shed. Is that terrible or am I over reacting!!??

Lastly, there was a 75 gal tank housing an adult burmese python (about 12 feet) a juvenile boa constrictor (about 4 feet) and a mid sized boa constrictor (about 6 feet) in the same cage. The same situation as above, there was shed piss and feces covering 50%-60% of the bottom. But what got me was that the water the burmese and juvenile boa were soaking in was dark greenish-brown. My wife pointed out to me that there was even dead flies floating in the water. That CAN"T be healthy!!

The other tanks in the store were all smaller (10-30 gal) and they were all generally lacking in cleanliness and maintenance but those three were the ones that really stood out to me.

Now! My question, as a new snake keeper but long time animal lover is, were the conditions that those snakes were living in normal for a pet store carrying larger snakes or does it seem like maybe the store ordered those snakes, couldn't sell them and now doesn't want to spend the time to keep them in good living conditions, therfore hindering there chances of being sold even more?!?

It just seems to me that a pet store should take the time and effort to give each snake adequate living space and make that space as comfortable as possible. I know it sounds cheesy, but it must be bad enough to have to live in a pet store without an owner to lavish hours of loving time on you, but to have to live day to day surrounded in your own sloughed skin and defication, what a tragedy.

Thats the end of my rant. Thanks for listening. If anyone can tell me that I'm right in thinking that the conditions were bad and has any input on actions I can take, I'd love to hear them.

Replies (4)

echo0330 Nov 14, 2004 09:04 AM

I sertinly hope thats not the norm! As a manager of a reptile dept. I wouldnt ever let my animals sit in those conditions, much less display them in it. and above all the cageing methods are TERRIBLE! personaly I would contact the ASPCA...
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AlteredMind99 Nov 14, 2004 12:34 PM

That is not good at all. Lots of people make posts asking what they should do when they notice awful conditions in pet stores. I know up here in maine we have a State Inspector named Tom Eddy, who comes around routinely and inspects pet stores. The guy is wondefully anal about animal care, and thinkings nothing about shutting down pet stores that don't stand up for his expectations. I mean, when i worked at petco he gave us crap for having too many G.Pigs in one enclosure, and it was only 3 G.Pigs in something the size of abouta 50breeder. He is great! Im not positive if every other state has one of these guys, but its worth checking out, try to find the state inspector, they work for the Dept of agriculture and wildlife. If you find him, or her, get them on the case of those neglective pet stores!!!!!!
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ginevive Nov 14, 2004 12:45 PM

That's definately not good hygeine! I have been into some real "winning" pet stores in the hygeine department. One of them disgusted me so much that I called th better business bureau and filed a complaint on them. But that really does not do much, though. The filthy place still exists.
But the conditions you just described really "take the cake" in relation to the stores I've seen! Old urate/feces/etc in cages is just uncalled for.
I would seriously bet that an employee has gotten bitten by one of those snakes while trying to clean them out (due to his/her own negligence, I might add.) Maybe in their twisted mind, they see the dirty tanks as punishment on the poor snakes, who were just acting instinctively. Or maybe the emps are simply afraid of snakes. At any rate, I hope you could get ahold of some sort of inspector to put an end to it. Or just tell the store owner he is a complete jerk (which is what I would do, heh.)
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Matt...Hennek Nov 15, 2004 10:15 PM

Why keep it hidden? If they are aweful, we shouldn't support them.

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