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Found California Tiger Salamander, breeding ?

MattP Nov 15, 2004 01:07 AM

Hi,

My sister's friend told me she found a Leopard Gecko and I breed Leopard Geckos, so she gave it to me........ It was obviously a California Tiger Salamander. This little guy is awesome, he's about 5 or 6 inches long. I have never seen a Tiger salamander or heard of anyone finding one in this area..... So, I'm going to her house to search for more before her cats eat them. My question is, is it possible to breed these in captivity and it looks like I have a male. I know how to take care of them, but I have no clue as to what to do about breeding.

Does anyone know how to breed California Tiger Salamanders? Or can someone tell me where I might be able to find out?

Thanks,
Matt
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Replies (6)

grimkeeper Nov 16, 2004 04:51 AM

I dont know the laws on them but I do know that they are protected in CA. You will need a permit. If you do live in CA I sugest you take a picture for memories and let it go somewhere safe. I dont mean any of this to be rude I just wanted to give you a heads up.
Best of luck,
Cameron
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MattP Nov 17, 2004 12:29 AM

I do live in California and I know its illegal to have, but....... I believe if I let it go it will be killed by cats or something else. I have never seen another one in the 15 years that I have lived here and I tried searching for more, but can't find them in my area. If someone knows of a safe place to let it go I would gladly release it, If I had a female I would want to breed it in captivity and then release all of the babies in a safe place.

I really do want what's best for it.

Matt
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EdK Nov 17, 2004 04:55 PM

The chances of you breeding this animal is about 0%. There are no reliable published reports or information on breeding this species. Adult ambystomids are nearly impossible to breed in captivity as they imprint on their breeding sites and will not usually breed in any other location. Its only real chance at reproduction is to return to the location from where it was collected. Also it is against the law in California to release any captive bred animals without a permit.
If I remember correctly this species has also been placed on the ESA so you are not only violating California State Law but the Federal ESA act by simply possessing the animal. Return it to where you got it before you kill it.

Ed

MattP Nov 18, 2004 01:52 AM

It has been released. I hope he's able to find a mate, before his habitat is destroyed or before he is killed by domesticated animals.

Matt
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aliceinwl Nov 24, 2004 05:40 AM

You did the right thing, having a California Tiger could have gotten you into very hot water ($10,000 fine etc.)!

They spend most of the year underground in the burrows of ground squirrels and gophers with a very limited period of surface activity. They are most commonly seen above ground starting in December when sufficient rains have fallen to start fillling their breeding ponds. They take about 5 to 6 years to reach sexual maturity and with the high rate of mortality the average CTS only survives to breed once.

They have several things going against them. The first is habitat destruction, if a pond is stocked with fish it becomes unsuitable for breeding this is why most CTS are found in vernal pools which dry seasonally, they require large areas of upland habitat with healthy ground squirrel / gopher populations where they can spend the dry season, they also are hybridizing with introduced barred tiger salamanders which were released by pet owners or bought and used as fish bait then escape. They are being killed off by chytrid (sp?) fungus, this is a fungal infection spread from pond to pond and is a major player in global amphibian declines as well as rana virus. In addition, roads often separate their upland habitat and their breeding ponds. Attempting to cross these roads many are run over, or flushed down storm drains.

If you want to observe these guys in the wild, your best bet is to go out at night during a good rain and slowly drive roads through habitat. I've seen several this way on a road that goes behind my house. Due to the rapid conversion of pasture land (CTS do fine with cattle grazing) to intensive ag and vineyards though I'm not sure how much longer this will last.

-Alice

Mark M Nov 26, 2004 01:24 AM

The only thing I might add is, release it at night, and try to release near some cattle ponds or other small bodies of water if possible. If it is raining, that would be an even better time.

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