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Hi guys,

Sorry to be so new and already begging for help, but both of the reptile vets within a 100 mile radius of where I live are out of the office today, and I fear treatment cannot wait.

As you may remember, I just got two new baby collareds on Tuesday. On Wednesday, one of them began exhibiting symptoms of illness. Primarily she's lethargic, and somewhat unresponsive to her surroundings. Having seen quite a lot of sick lizards in the past, I don't take these symptoms lightly.

My question is, what medications and dosages would you give her to go ahead and start treatment prophylactically, since I cannot get a fecal done until next week? I am inclined to go ahead and start her on Baytril, and give both of them starting doses of wormer (as my vet always recommended with new animals), but I can't remember the amounts to administer. The female is 8 grams and the male (who is not showing signs of illness) is 14 grams. Even though the reptile vet is out today, they said I could come by and pick up medications. In the past I have treated sick animals with Baytril, Panacur, Albon, and one other wormer whose name I can't remember right at this moment.

If any of you have experience treating lizards yourselves, I would greatly appreciate all the help you can offer.

élan
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1.1.0 Collareds
1.0.0 Mali Uromastix
0.0.1 Butterfly Agama
1.0.0 Green Anole
1.0.0 Chinese Dwarf Newt
2.0.0 California Newts
0.0.1 White's Treefrog
0.0.1 Fire bellied toad
0.0.1 American Bullfrog
0.0.1 Midland Brown Snake
1.1.0 Felines
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Equine

Hi, I am certainly not a medical expert, just have alot of lizards. Did she come in this condition?

FIRST** always make sure your temperatures are correct. 100 - 105/ and 110 acceptable in basking area. The rest of the tank should be high 80's to 90.

That can make them lethargic real quick, cool temps

Was she active and them not? Just wondering, it has only been a couple days since you recieved her.

Sometimes they do act a bit weird until they settle in to their new surroundings.

Is she very thin? Is that why you are talking about wormers? And one more thing, did she eat in the last few days?

I would hesitate to treat her with medicines, this young , when I was not even sure what the heck I was treating, if you know what I mean.

I would keep an eye on all those things first, if shes eating, if shes extremely thin, so on, before I would think medicines.

And see how she is acting and if there are any ILL symptoms.

Hope she will perk up, sorry not the answer you wanted but until I had some idea, I do not treat with meds.

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Eve / PHEve

try and treat her. Let us know how ya make out.

Be really careful if you decide to do it, shes a baby !
Medicines and dosages

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Eve / PHEve

oh i am sorry that your babe is not feeling well. shipping does take a lot out of them. if i repeat any of eve's wisdoms please forgive me
did you give them a nice warm soak when you got them in?
if you are really concerned about her weight and if you have not seen her eat, perhaps you could by some meat baby food and then wipe some on her lips, not really force feeding her, just letting her lap it off.
is the male lizard being nice to her? milly used to hide alot and not act like herself whenever walter was showing off his virility.
just some suggestions. i hope she does ok
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

he could be stressin her out, or she could pass wutever she has to him...

I can also add that high UVB source or outdoor unfilterd sun increase their appetite naturally.
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Alex & Marie-Ève

Hello, and thanks for the responses. Let me fill in the details:

The temps are about 105-110 in the basking area, around 90 on the other side of the enclosure.

When they first arrived they both ate after warming up, though she not as much as the other. She seemed to be acting normally the first evening but was already beginning to appear lethargic within the first 24 hours. I haven't seen her eat any crickets since Wednesday, so last night I offered her a bit of canned prescription AD from the tip of a syringe. She ate about 1/3 cc voluntarily.

I wouldn't say she's very thin, but you can see the hip bones. Her tail is still rounded out.

I haven't seen any aggression from the male, but the idea of separating them is a good one nonetheless.

I do have a high UVB bulb for them, but no natural sunlight since it has been rainy and cool this week.

Whenever I have acquired new collareds in the past it has been my vet's recommendation to treat them prophylactically because of the high parasite loads that he has typically seen in these lizards (most were wild caught and sold in the local pet store). That is the reason for my considering this approach with these. However, I may be able to wait before treating her until next week when he returns, provided that she does not continue to decline.

I appreciate all the excellent advise!

élan
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1.1.0 Collareds
1.0.0 Mali Uromastix
0.0.1 Butterfly Agama
1.0.0 Green Anole
1.0.0 Chinese Dwarf Newt
2.0.0 California Newts
0.0.1 White's Treefrog
0.0.1 Fire bellied toad
0.0.1 American Bullfrog
0.0.1 Midland Brown Snake
1.1.0 Felines
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Equine

I just noticed I typed "Neep" instead of "Need" (shakes head) . . . and to think I actually proofread my post.

Well, the good news is that tonight the little lizard seems to be more responsive and alert. She chased down and ate a cricket before retiring to her cave, which thrilled me to no end. Moreover, her improvement has come with minimal intervention on my part--only a bit of hand feeding and TLC.

More updates to come,

élan
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1.1.0 Collareds
1.0.0 Mali Uromastix
0.0.1 Butterfly Agama
1.0.0 Green Anole
1.0.0 Chinese Dwarf Newt
2.0.0 California Newts
0.0.1 White's Treefrog
0.0.1 Fire bellied toad
0.0.1 American Bullfrog
0.0.1 Midland Brown Snake
1.1.0 Felines
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Equine

well, we all knew you were stressed so we let it slide, ha ha. we all do typos. this forum could be an english teacher's nightmare
i am glad the little girl is being a little more active. maybe she is the dramatic type and just wanted to be held
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***