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The NYS ban has been signed, here it is.http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S07616
This really [bleep] sucks, this will be my first year for breeding, now what, I got to sell all 11 before Jan 1, 2005.

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Edited on November 21, 2004 at 13:17:31 by phwyvern.

if you already own the baned animals as long as you werent convicted of creulty to animals you may keep such animals for there entire life 3. ANY PERSON WHO POSSESSES OR HARBORS A WILD ANIMAL FOR USE AS A PET
37 AT THE TIME THAT THIS SECTION TAKES EFFECT MAY RETAIN POSSESSION OF SUCH
38 ANIMAL FOR THE REMAINDER OF ITS LIFE, PROVIDED THAT SUCH PERSON:
39 A. HAS NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY OFFENSE RELATING TO CRUELTY TO
40 ANIMALS OR UNDER A JUDICIAL ORDER PROHIBITING POSSESSION OF ANIMALS;
41 B. APPLIES TO THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN SIXTY DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE
42 OF THIS SECTION, AND OBTAINS FROM THE DEPARTMENT, A PERMIT PURSUANT TO
43 SUBDIVISION FOUR OF THIS SECTION; AND
44 C. COMPLIES WITH ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED BY THE DEPART-
45 MENT AS REQUISITES FOR OWNERSHIP OF SUCH WILD ANIMAL.
46 4. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL BE REQUIRED TO ISSUE PERMITS AUTHORIZING
47 POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMALS ONLY TO THOSE PERSONS WHO COMPLY WITH THE
48 PROVISIONS OF SUBDIVISION THREE OF THIS SECTION AND WITH ANY REGULATIONS
49 PROMULGATED BY THE DEPARTMENT THEREUNDER. SUCH PERMITS SHALL BE VALID
50 IN ANY JURISDICTION WITHIN THE STATE WHERE POSSESSION OF A WILD ANIMAL
51 IS NOT PROHIBITED BY LOCAL LAW AND SHALL BE RENEWABLE BIENNIALLY ANNUAL-
52 LY SUBJECT TO CONTINUED COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION
53 AND WITH ANY REGULATIONS PROMULGATED THEREUNDER. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL
54 FORWARD COPIES OF SUCH PERMITS TO THE CLERK OF THE CITY, TOWN OR VILLAGE
55 IN WHICH EACH WILD ANIMAL IS HARBORED"
but it does say that you arent allowed to breed it i would contact big names liveing in new your like the burkes and find out if and what they are planing on doing about this its things like that that make me glad to have moved out of new york because i for one will only give up my boas when they pry them from my cold dead fingers. what gets me is how everyone voted on that bill it was almost unanmouse only 2 names voted no on it thats sad how people who have nothing to do with our hobby can make laws to hurt it so
god bless america huh? yeah right!
billy

I am not a lawyer or anything but what constitutes a "wild" animal? Would CB be considered a domesticated animal? And what the hell are the reasons for them banning wild animals to begin with?

I love dogs but I believe dogs kill more people nationally than wild animals do. Are they going to ban dogs too? Wolf hybrids?

The ban seems ridiculous to me. Is there anyone doing anything to fight or repeal it?

Hows that old country song go,I believe its kinda like.....Proud to be an american where at least I know I'm free.......MY BUTT!!!!!I'M SORRY PEOPLE,I LOVE MY COUNTRY! BUT THIS IS GETTING REDICULAS. AN I AM VERY UPSET OVER THIS!WHAT IN THE HECK GIVES ANY OF THESE RICHETY TYRANTS THE RIGHT TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN AN CAN'T OWN!WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO MAKE A CREATURE THAT GOD PUT ON THIS EARTH ILLEGAL TO OWN!THIS CRAP SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WHAT 50 YEARS AGO BEFORE BOA'S WERE IMPORTED OUT OF THEIR NATURAL ENVIROMENT!OR SHOULD I SAY WHAT ENVIROMENT WHEN PEOPLE KEEP CUTTUNG DOWN TREES AN RAINFOREST'S AN FOR WHAT.....MONEY!OK WE HAVE ALL SET AROUND HERE ON OUR BUTTS AN GRIPPED ABOUT THIS AN HAVE DONE NOTHING!!!!!NOW I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT US LITTLE GUYS CAN'T DO CRAP ALONE BUT THEIR ARE BIG BREEDERS IN THIS BUSINESS THAT HAVE THE POWER TO ATLEAST GIVE IT ONE HECK OF A SHOT!AN NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE NOTHING!AN MENTIONED ABOVE WHAT WILL THE BURKES DO THATS ALOT OF MONEY BEING TIED UP AN NOT BEING ABLE TO REPRODUCE OR SELL,THAT BITES BAD!AN IF SOMTHING DONT GET DONE THAN HOW MANY MORE STATES ARE GOING TO FOLLOW BEHIND NEW YORK???????WELL THIS IS SO AGRIVATING THAT I AM RAMBLING SO I WILL STOP!PLEASE excuse the caps but this ain't right,an this isn't the land of the free,with the way things are going,in the end who knows what this will be the land of!Thanks Eric[Hypoboa]

This is an email I just got back.

You are fine with boas. The only snakes included in the new bill are some of the larger pythons, and anacondas.

Bruce Lowder
NY Reptile Expo

leads me to believe all snakes from the family boidae it does not exclude boas or balls by name there fore they are not excluded i would call your local fish and wild life office as well as your county legislators and find out exactly what you can and can not keep

June 19th bill states this.
1 (3) CANIDAE (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DOMESTICATED DOGS),
2 (4) URSIDAE,
3 (5) ALL REPTILES THAT ARE VENOMOUS BY NATURE, PURSUANT TO DEPARTMENT
4 REGULATION, AND THE FOLLOWING SPECIES AND FAMILIES: BOIDAE FAMILY,
5 ASIATIC (WATER) MONITOR (V. SALVATOR), NILE MONITOR (V. NILOCITUS),
6 WHITE THROAT MONITOR (V. ALBIGULARUS), BLACK THROAT MONITOR (V. ALBIGU-
7 LARUS IONIDES) AND CROCODILE MONITOR (V. SALVADORI) AND ANY HYBRID THER-
8 EOF,
9 (6) CROCODILIA.

And then it got amended on July 12th in further detail the the Boide family, here it is.

19 (5) All reptiles that are venomous by nature, pursuant to department
20 regulation, and the following species and families: {Boidae family}
21 BURMESE PYTHON (PYTHON M. BIVITTATUS), RETICULATED PYTHON (PYTHON RETI-
22 CULATUS), AFRICAN ROCK PYTHON (PYTHON SABAE), GREEN ANACONDA (EUNECTES
23 MAURINUS), YELLOW ANACONDA (EUNECTES NOTAEUS) , AUSTRALIAN AMETHYSTINE
24 PYTHON (MORELIA AMETHISTINA KINHORNI), INDIAN PYTHON (PYTHON MOLURUS),
25 Asiatic (water) Monitor (V. {Salvator} SALVATOR), Nile Monitor (V.
26 {Nilocitus} NILOCITUS), White Throat Monitor (V. {Albigularus