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Early stages of a possible ban proposal in Kansas........what would you do ?

mchambers Nov 21, 2004 09:23 AM

no bill # yet and only what i heard about Kansas Wildlife agencies : I have been notified of possible bans of exotics with possible link to reptiles and direct naming of venomous. This was brought to my attention by primate keepers and mostly exotic big feline keepers and breeders. While the only thing I know of and this is definitely in a premature stage ( my opinion ), there has been some work shops going on for some months on regulation and possible ban and will be addressed again by the wildlife commission. I have been notified of wanting my voice heard over this but at this time I'm at a dilemma of even getting invovled because I do not know if it would be a just cause before it actually comes to a bill before the whomever. Also most wildlife agencies and my own regional office either denies there is anything at this time going on paramount or they would be at a lose to how anything could be addressed without knowing the full content of the proposal. What i find very upsetting at my end is I have gotten no communications from any reptile people on this ( but i went through this several times in past ) but several other exotic animal hobbyist has sent me the agendas. We all know that exotic bans are blanketed and not thought out to really what is to be conceived as exotic and this may be another " inherently " dangerous exotic law. What to do ! WHAT TO DO !

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EricWI Nov 21, 2004 12:51 PM

np

mchambers Nov 21, 2004 03:01 PM

is getting ready to launch maybe a similar law being there have been several " bust " on exotic feline people and being there are big reptile shows in Missouri and hardley any in Kansas. I know that the Mo. agencies are cracking down on non-reporting exotic keepers with county fish and game. While it is still a class c misdemeanor, if you don't report in with what you have and if there is any problem/s as the escape of a exotic, mauling, bite, etc. , your insurance may not pay. This also includes the scenario of firefighters, police, parametics, etc. having to come to your place. Of course there are adequate city and township laws in place but as in Abeline Texas and New York City, we know that people are not adhering to those laws. The folks out in counties in the country are not much into thinking they need to register. i don't know if i blame them but if the above happens...........

EricWI Nov 21, 2004 05:32 PM

np

Katrina Nov 21, 2004 10:53 PM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pet-law/

These people can help, too, with letter writing and advice.

The domestic cat people would be interested, too, as there are some breeds of now domestic cat that have some exotic wild cat in their fairly recent background, and they are often listed in bans on exotic animals.

Katrina

mchambers Nov 22, 2004 09:25 AM

( meeting ) Jan. 22 i think in this state.

wildtropics Nov 23, 2004 10:51 PM

Mr. Chambers,
We have had similar attempts by the Louisiana State Legislature to impose permit systems and bans. However, the Louisiana Gulf Coast Herpetological Society acted quickly and decisively to thwart legislation. This was accomplished by GETTING OUT THE WORD to any and everybody that had an interest in reptiles. Stay diligent and on the computer to keep track of news or any bill that may be filed. We monitor the activities of the House and Senate Committees on Natural Resources where any reptile bill must be filed. We have also spoken to Animal Control groups, ie the SPCA and Humane Society, and asked them to let us help them with reptile issues and upcoming regulatory meetings instead of them approaching their legislators. This is time consuming but it must be done. We have found that helping with reptile shows that are sponsored as a fund raiser by a local animal shelter has really helped our credibility and they have contacted legislators for us to complain about impending regulations. Kansas has some great herpetological history and academia. Ask them for help. ASK EVERYBODY for help. Contact us for specifics on how we deal with legislation.
~Bill Watts~ LGCHS Legislative Chairman

wildtropics@cox.net

mchambers Nov 24, 2004 10:13 AM

laws without going before the senate and or without a bill ? I would say no way but I seem to remember something like this maybe happened in Texas. Right or wrong !

Thanks to all that have responded and will respond.

Mike Chambers

Katrina Nov 28, 2004 12:48 AM

That would be a regulation written by a governmental agency. Regulations can be changed without going to the legislature, if they are within the current authority of an agency, but there is usually a public comment period when the regulation is posted in a public, state register. You can do a word search for your state's register, and see what comes up. I check the MD register occasionally just to see what's in there.

Katrina

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