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Species Mix

skatedork Nov 22, 2004 10:50 PM

So I am getting a few Blue Azureus and a few Dyeing Tinctoris dart frogs, What other species could I get? I am ordering these all as babies.

Thanks to all who helped me with my tank over teh past few months, I am finally done!!!

My Terrarium!

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Replies (10)

slaytonp Nov 23, 2004 12:26 AM

I hope you aren't mixing them all together in this one tank. One tank, one specie at a time.

My piano teacher used to tell me, when I was learning to play Bach, "Don't ever try to eat the entire elephant in one meal." She meant that I should perfect the technique and first few measures before I attempted to learn the entire piece as a whole. One should keep only one specie of frog at a time, learn about them individually, and never mix them until you have vast resources and are a master.

I may have misunderstood what you are doing here.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

skatedork Nov 23, 2004 08:12 AM

I was told that mixing these 2 when they are babies isn't such a bad thing and with a 90 gallon tank they have lots of room to avoid eachother if need be. I was however told not to get artaurus because they grow faster than the tinctoris and azureus.
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fryebrosfrogs Nov 23, 2004 08:24 AM

skatedork,
The mixing of different tinc morphs and Azureus can/will result in hybrids. This is a big no-no . There may be some out there who will say that it is your choice and that if you want hybrids and do not sell them then it is OK, this line of thought is not acceptable to most in the hobby though. The need for keeping true bloodlines is paramount in Darts. Tincs will cross with other sepparate tinc morphs as well as Azureus, this should most deffinatly not be left to happen. A 90 gal will not stop frogs from fighting or hybridizing.
You can mix some species, if you are experienced, just not these species.

Rich

amphibianfreak Nov 23, 2004 03:25 PM

thats a lot of room too for just froglets, they'll have hard time finding food and you will have a tuff time monitering them

slaytonp Nov 23, 2004 07:43 PM

I've never kept D. azureus, but these are next on my list. I plan to purchase a sexed pair. Although these near adults are more expensive per frog, I understand that they are not good groupies and do better in sexed pairs. The same appears to be true with tincs. I definitely wouldn't mix these two species together whatever the tank size, just from their individual reputations, even though I have yet to keep either.

That is a beautiful tank. You've done a great job there. I love the falls.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

kich4theanswer Nov 23, 2004 04:29 PM

hey I like your setup, but out of curiosity, do you have anything over your tank to control humidity? I only ask because when I build my tank I need to know what other dart herpers use over their tanks to control humidity.

-paul

skatedork Nov 23, 2004 04:46 PM

I made custom tops out of plexi glass and in the middle I cut a square out and attached velcro. I have 2 smaller squares of plexi glass I attach, or if it is really warm and I want to air the tank out I made attachments from fiberglass screen that I can use instead of the plexi glass to act as a vent. I control the humidity with a mysting system for the most part though.
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slaytonp Nov 23, 2004 07:22 PM

I use Tropic-air in two of my tanks. This is a rather simple and inexpensive way to add some humid air that works like the oxygen humidifiers you see in hositals. It works on an aquarium air pump that bubbles air through a tall plastic bottle of water on one side of a sponge, then the moist air is forced out the top on the other side of the sponge into the tank. I think these cost around $15.00 at a pet store. I supplement with misting and there are waterways and falls, as well. I usually keep the tanks completely sealed closed with a hinged glass top because we have a very dry climate and it doesn't get very hot in summer, but there are enough leaks for some air exchange when the moist air is forced in. However the above system with a mister sounds very good in case you need to cool and vent.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

kich4theanswer Nov 24, 2004 03:19 PM

thank you for your help!

Deven Nov 28, 2004 04:09 PM

I certianly hope you're not planning to mix species. even with tincs, there are a risks with regards to cross breeding as well
as even more dangerous...pathogens, community crowding...i hope you plan for only one species for that tank...but you never answered that question...check out www.dendroboard.com and see what the they say!
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