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...We have had posts in the past here about the size of meals to feed to little BRBs. I fed some of my 2004 babies some big fuzzy rats this evening. The rat fuzzies each weighed a little over an ounce which is approximately the same weight as a jumbo mouse. The snakes were born in july and early august and are now 22 to 24 inches long. I think these meals were actually too big to regularly feed but I wanted to show PICs so people can see how big a meal they can eat.

>>...We have had posts in the past here about the size of meals to feed to little BRBs. I fed some of my 2004 babies some big fuzzy rats this evening. The rat fuzzies each weighed a little over an ounce which is approximately the same weight as a jumbo mouse. The snakes were born in july and early august and are now 22 to 24 inches long. I think these meals were actually too big to regularly feed but I wanted to show PICs so people can see how big a meal they can eat.
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>>>>...We have had posts in the past here about the size of meals to feed to little BRBs. I fed some of my 2004 babies some big fuzzy rats this evening. The rat fuzzies each weighed a little over an ounce which is approximately the same weight as a jumbo mouse. The snakes were born in july and early august and are now 22 to 24 inches long. I think these meals were actually too big to regularly feed but I wanted to show PICs so people can see how big a meal they can eat...

Those are bigger meals than I regularly feed. Do you think the size matters more than the frequency, or are calories calories?
I am always looking at ads that say takes fuzzies with no problems and I always think...well, if I was only given 1/2 a meal I'd be hungry too.

Linda,
...I think these snakes have evolved to eat big meals and eat often when food is available so that they can rapidly grow big enough to not be a convenient snack for mid size predators. Monkeys, Coatis, mid to large birds and similar size animals easily eat little BRBs whereas an adult BRB can likely defend itself from most of these predators. There actually are not dense populations of larger predators over much of the range of the different Rainbow Boa subspecies. I think these meals were too big solely because I have had them puke before when feeding really big meals. I think size of the meal versus frequency does not matter. They do fine either way eating lots of little meals or a few bigger meals.
Jeff

>>Those are bigger meals than I regularly feed. Do you think the size matters more than the frequency, or are calories calories?
>>I am always looking at ads that say takes fuzzies with no problems and I always think...well, if I was only given 1/2 a meal I'd be hungry too.

awhile back. My post escapee is doing well and eating 18-21gram mice weekly. Clint

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alot of boas, and pythons can eat things up to 10x the size of there head. what do you think the max is for the BRBs? just out of curiousety.
thanx
nevin
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Nevin,
....I am not sure how to quantify the size of head to size of prey. I do know that some of the thinner Pythons can eat meals that weigh half as much as the snake. I have little Diamond Jungle crosses here now that can really eat big meals. Young Rainbow Boas seem to be able to eat meals that are proportionately larger than what the adults can do. These rat fuzzies were around a third of the weight of the snakes. Some of my adult BRBs will shy away from meals that are more than about 10% of their weight. A few of them will eat jumbo one pound rats that are around 20% of the snake's body weight. The colubrids are not as famous for eating amazing meals but I have seen some pretty impressive ones. I saw an Eastern Indigo that was 5 feet 10 inches long eat a Yellow Ratsnake that was 6 feet even. He swallowed it head first and had the tail of the ratsnake extending out his mouth for two days before he puked it up. I caught a big Yellow Rat once that puked up a very large squirrel.
Jeff

>>alot of boas, and pythons can eat things up to 10x the size of there head. what do you think the max is for the BRBs? just out of curiousety.
>>thanx
>>nevin
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>>.1. green tree python-bates
>>.1 jungle carpet python-echo
>>1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
>>.1 columbian redtail-trinity
>>1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
>>1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
>>.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
>>.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
>>.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
>>0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
>>1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
>>1. uromastyx-chubby
>>2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
>>.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
>>.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
>>.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
>>.1. pacman frog- MR belly
>>.1 columbian redtail-trinity
>>2.0 brothers
>>0.2 sisters
>>3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
>>1 miniture mutt-brutis
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>>all ive got is insane
>>
>>"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"
>>
>>"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."
>>

ok. thank you. chaos will take really big jumbo rats with out thinking twice. its very funny to watch her hit these things. shes so strong that last time i fed her, she hit her frozen/thawed meal so hard a large peace of flesh flew off. i know, disgusting, but i thought it was pretty cool. but as for the the other pythons and boas, its pretty much the bigger ones, ratics, burms, anacondas, and others somewhat alike. ball pythons are also included in that list.
thanx again
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. uromastyx-chubby
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."