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jobi Nov 24, 2004 01:29 PM

I recently obtained these baby BT’s, the left one I called her Rickets she was given to me because she was paralysed back legs and could only move using her front legs (MBD) the middle one is Pepper she’s an average looking speckled female and right you have Quarto the male. I set them up in a 6L-2H-2W feet cage, I started feeding them making sure Rickets gets her share, she started using her back legs within a week of good husbandry, by this I mean good temps and basking with 40-60% humidity gradient, no UVB, UVA Vitamins or any such things, she was fed rat pinkies, hissers, snails.

She became as mobile as the others and then something changed, Quattro and Pepper started chasing Rickets all over and attacking her relentlessly, but Rickets seemed to have a drive for survival coming out at knight to feed on escaped hissers and basking, till then Quattro and Pepper stayed together as sole mates, they basked and slept together with the arm thing while Rickets was left aside, This week the roles have changed, now that Rickets is 100% Quattro hade a change of hart and bonded with her, both are now chasing and biting Pepper. I cant help questioning myself as of why this happened? Its true that Rickets is a much more colourful female then Pepper, but can this have any meaning to a monitor? Perhaps its her will to survive that attracted Quattro? Maybe we will never know, but something is sure! There was socialising going on in that cage, and I see no reason why this would happen only to captive monitors. I keep witnessing such behaviours with all species I keep, to me it seems impossible that they don’t behave this way in nature.

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FR Nov 24, 2004 02:06 PM

Your example is an excellent one for testing the label, social. The question is, why did one individual pick a certain other individual and and both or one is agressive to a third individual. Very interesting and I agree, I see that all the time. FR

jobi Nov 24, 2004 05:24 PM

I have no idea how there selection works, sometime I think the females take that decision and the males just go along with it?

As I took the hide from over them, Pepper and Rickets where sleeping side by side today, they where adversaries for the last 3 days, now Rickets is the dominate female she clearly takes more food and she’s in superb condition, this sequence shows pepper exhibiting submission as she goes around Rickets to see if I have any food to offer.

jobi Nov 24, 2004 02:11 PM

I have no problem with your concept, aim sure they are missing out on something out there!

kap10cavy Nov 24, 2004 09:03 PM

I have 2 savs that have been sharing the same cage since late June. They have completely different personalities. The young fella is just like a teenage boy. All full of himself and king of his domain. The little gal is more laid back and is happy to just be left alone. Well, now I have the new gal I got from Jody.
I have been slowly introducing them in the tub under close supervision.
Today I put the new gal in the cage with the others. It went as expected. The teenager had to go show her who was boss. Did I mention he is the smallest of them all? There was a lot of hissing and when the biting started, the other girl climbed off her basking spot to investigate. She has started following the new critter around without interfering but did block the way iwhen she headed toward her fella. To me it looks like some sort of social bond has developed.

Scott
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

JPsShadow Nov 24, 2004 09:11 PM

this falls into what I am talking about up top. You are seeing social behaviors. It doesn't mean you won't see solitary behaviors though.

I still prefer to label the behaviors rather then to label the animal and limit my learning to a term as defined by some humans.

After all what then happens when I hit a snag? do I then try to pound the square peg into a round whole?

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