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South Korean dione . . . .>

terryp Nov 25, 2004 07:21 PM

I picked up one pair (actually 2.1) from Terry Cox. I got a female from TC next clutch to complete the 2 pairs I have. Here's one of the dark red phase males.

Terry Parks

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RandyWhittington Nov 25, 2004 08:52 PM

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terryp Nov 26, 2004 02:23 AM

Thanks for the comment Randy. Not quite the sizeof your beauties. LOL. Good luck this coming season.

Terry Parks

Mark Banczak Nov 25, 2004 09:04 PM

LOL. Sure looks good. When did you get these?

terryp Nov 26, 2004 01:42 AM

Hi Mark -
I picked up the reverse trio from TC in the spring of 2002. The babies from that clutch actually hatched in the fall of 2001 and TC held on to the babies until the spring so they would be eating and developing real good. I originally was getting a pair, but added another male when I found out TC had some extra males. Then I picked up another female from the next clutch. The babies from the second clutch were a lighter shade. The breeders are w/c collected in or near Seol (sp), South Korea. TC bred a different male to his female I believe. He got something like 22 eggs in the second clutch and I believe he didn't breed his SK diones last year. My wife, Brenda, really loves them and takes care of them a lot. She says they have personalities. We know they don't really have personalities, but they have very good behavior responses to what's around them. They are active during some of the day so you get to see them more than most rat snakes. I'm sure with me being in California and TC moving to AZ in a couple years, you can start making a spot for some SK diones if you like them.

Terry Parks

Terry Cox Nov 26, 2004 07:31 AM

>>Hi Mark -
>> I picked up the reverse trio from TC in the spring of 2002. The babies from that clutch actually hatched in the fall of 2001 and TC held on to the babies until the spring so they would be eating and developing real good. I originally was getting a pair, but added another male when I found out TC had some extra males. Then I picked up another female from the next clutch. The babies from the second clutch were a lighter shade. The breeders are w/c collected in or near Seol (sp), South Korea. TC bred a different male to his female I believe. He got something like 22 eggs in the second clutch and I believe he didn't breed his SK diones last year. My wife, Brenda, really loves them and takes care of them a lot. She says they have personalities. We know they don't really have personalities, but they have very good behavior responses to what's around them. They are active during some of the day so you get to see them more than most rat snakes. I'm sure with me being in California and TC moving to AZ in a couple years, you can start making a spot for some SK diones if you like them.
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>>Terry Parks

Mark,

Let me pick up the theme a little bit here. The original pair were from Seoul, S.K. They were quite old, but I managed to get a clutch in 2001 (small with only a couple females). Then in 2002 I bred the female to a young male I assumed was a progeny of theirs that I got with them from the late Lloyd Lemke. We got 15 babies from that clutch. There hasn't been any other clutches from these snakes, and the original female passed away during brumation (2003). I have one pair from 2001 which will breed next spring I believe. I also have a pair from 2002. These snakes are a little lighter and makes me think we can select for lighter coloration. Here's a 2002 male I'm raising...

Sorry for the repeat pics, but I'm trying to make a point with these things. The worse problem is that they are all from the same two individuals, I believe. Hopefully, we'll be able to get some new blood in eventually, but so far I haven't seen anyone else talking about South Koreans. There has been some from N. Korea.

Like Terry said, these snakes are real friendly, mostly diurnal, and make good pets. They have lots of great qualities I won't go into here. I'm trying to make a site where I can post info like this. They are interesting, exotic, and a great compliment to a corn snake collection. They can't compete with corn snake coloration, but someday, hopefully, we'll have some morphs available which we can breed with the S.K.'s.

More to come in the future...TC.

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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and albino Chinese beauty snakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, Great Plains ratsnakes and corns

Mark Banczak Nov 26, 2004 08:40 AM

I was just taking a poke at Parks. I agree with you, I think they are great snakes and love the coloration of the South Koreans. The deep red saddles are a perfect look against the golden ground color. A diurnal snake with a placid demeanor and a great look-how can anyone go wrong?
Now, let us know when you get the website done. I'll be anxious to see it.

Terry Cox Nov 26, 2004 09:02 AM

Thanks, Mark. I figured it was something like that. But I wanted to take the opportunity to plug the snakes too...LOL. I'm trying to find the time to work on the site, but it'll be a little while I'm afraid. I'll sure let you all know

TC

terryp Nov 26, 2004 09:24 AM

and clarifications to my post Terry. I felt bad your female didn't make it through the 2003 brumation. You can be thankful with getting the 2 clutches from her. Each clutch had a different father. The lighter ones look really great and most people seem to lean towards those from what I can see. I really liked that male you used to father the first clutch. He sure had some nice red to him. Mark was just taking a poke at me Terry. He really was implying the opposite of castoffs in his post. Mark and I have been communicating a lot more since he and the family made the move to Tucson, AZ recently. I really like the everglades pics he has posted on this forum. I felt a sting when a couple of the glades didn't survive the move.

Terry Parks

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