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i have a ball python now that is about 1 and a half feet long, and the fatest part of her body is about the size of a 50 cent peice, and I want to get another ball python, probably about 12-16 inches and fatest part of its body will probably be as big as a quarter or smaller, so I was wondering if it would be ok to temporarily house them, for about a month and a half. Until i can buy a new cage for the bigger ball python, because im going to be buying a new cage for her anyways(the bigger BP) and im going to have an empty 20 gallon cage, for a new ball python so, what do you guys think? can i house them for a little while? or should i wait to get the new cage and everything then put the BP in the empty cage? only thing is that will be a month and a half and i wanted to get a new one now and keep them in the 20 gallon cage until i can get a bigger cage for the bigger ball python.

First you need to quarentine all new herps for a few months before even introducing them to one another. And IMO it is cruel to house two different solitary animals together except for breeding purposes.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

Scroll on down to -Sad day- and tell me what you think...

that post called SAD DAY, that would not apply to me IMO because he had 5 in 1 cage, im having 2 for a little over a month. maybe i'll buy a 10 gal cage for a little while. but maybe not.

before even THINKING about introduceing you need to quarentine....

invest in a sterilite.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

well thanks for the info, i have no idea what your talking about with that quarentine, thing, the BP i have now seems healthy, and i dont think im going to pay for the vet visit, seeing in how im 16, dont have a job, i find coming up with 40 dollars for the vet visit however much more to get it quarentined very hard. just to get it sex there it costed 60 dollars, how much will it be to get quarentined? I guess i'll take my chances, and get another BP and house them together for a month and a half. I contacted a reptile store in the neighborhood, who breeds certain types of snakes themselves, and thy said it should be fine.

Quarentine is when you house a new animal in a "quarentine cage". Something that is simple, easy to clean, and you can visibly find mites and ticks. This way you can make sure an animal is healthy before spreading any disease to other animals.

That "reptile" shop needs to learn about the health of their animals over the amount of money they make.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

that reptile shop doesnt sell reptiles on demand, they sell what they have bred, and they usually dont ever have ball pythons. usually just king snakes and Red Tailed Boas. so i dont think they are concerned about money. I have prevent-a-mite, which i will probably spray in the cage while i clean it. I've used prevent a mite before, My friend has a BP and we let them go around each other and his had mites, I used prevent a mite and never have seen one again, however, i will still probably spray it in the cage while i clean it out when i get the new BP. i know the rules of PAM(prevent a mite) and i know you cant have any food or water in there for 24 hours and everything. do you think that will be ok?

I don't think quarantine is intended to prevent the spread of mites. Along with internal parasites, Ball Pythons may carry disasterous diseases that could easily wipe out an entire collection. This is the cheif reason for a quarantine period -- to prevent the spread of deadly disease.

Keep them separated...period. After a recommended time, you may allow them to interact (still housed separately, though), but only after you've given any potential diseases time enough to manfest themselves. Many Ball Python owners have ignored the rules of quarantine only to lose their entire collection to a fatal disease spread from a single new animal.

Chris
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"I don't know about you...but I find comfort in that." -- Cowboy

alright i guess i WILL listen to you guys, i dont wanna risk losing my bp i have now, especially when i have gotten attached to it, and i know i'll get attached to the one i buy .

Good choice. I promise you won't regret it. And enjoy your new Ball Python! =)

Chris =)
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"I don't know about you...but I find comfort in that." -- Cowboy

thanks! thanks for your guys help, im pretty stubborn lol, i might make a rubbermaid for my NEW bp until i get a cage, i have tons of rubbermaids, i have atleast 12 for when i moved(we liked rubermaids more than cardboard boxes ) Anyways, so yeah i have like 12 empty atleast, i have smaller ones, and bigger ones, i'll probably use the smaller ones, my dad gets the newspaper every sunday, lol. and he can get the zip ties from his work(he works in a lawfirm, so he works with tons of computers so tons of wires, so they have them if you need to tie them up) haha yeah thats actually a good idea . what do you guys think?

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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

on ball-python.net it said you needed zipties, i didnt really read word for ward what you needed to do but i saw that you needed zip ties lol. for a rubbermaid cage.

oops i read it now btw its ball-pythons.net (missed the S last time) and it said zipties were optional. haha this is going to be fun, maybe i will make one for my BP

so i dont think they are concerned about money.

A pet store not concerned with money? Then what exactly are they concerned with? I don't thin such a store exists. And if it did, it would be a store. It would be a rescue operation. An operation that will likely house your two Ball Pythons when you decide to cheap out and not look after them properly.

If you can't/won't house them properly because you can't afford to do it, then why the heck would you BUY ANOTHER ONE?

Does that honestly make sense in your head?

Just curious.

its already settled? why are you still posting here? im just going to wait. and even if i didnt i was using a rubbermaid which is fine. they dont care about making money, because they dont even have ball pythons. so why would they be like yeah its fine buy a ball python from us. when they dont even have any? does that not process in your head? read everything before you post.

Since you are planning on getting another cage anyway, I would wait until you can give each their own cage. If you can't wait, put the new snake in a sterilite until you move the old snake. For the health and well being of both snakes you must quarantine the new animal for 3-4 weeks anyway. If you end up putting them together, just be smart - don't force them to compete, make sure they have separate hides, heat sources, cool spots, etc. and feed them separately. Although balls are solitary animals, they can be kept together if they're cared for properly.

thanks for the info, I'm good at caring for my ball python, and i found out it probably wont be as long as a month it might only be until the 15th(so 30th - 15th) most likely. so i will probably do it. the Old one has been fine, and the new one im getting from a breeder on the web http://pythons.com/hamper/ is this site, so it should be healthy, i've heard from other people in other forums that who have bought from Hamper, said they are healthy snakes, and well behaved, like mine. so they should be fine. maybe i'll just wait until january though.

I bought 0.3 from Don Hamper this year.
I am quite satisfied with them.

One of them is this reduced looking one.

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Charles Glaspie

Here is a pic of how i keep that pile seperated.

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Charles Glaspie