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Can I get a rough consensus on the following?

Conserving_herps Nov 30, 2004 12:53 PM

Regarding captive bred honduran milksnakes, how many out there are:

- snow?

- ghost?

- extreme hypos?

I know that answers would not be accurate to date, but just a rough estimate would do. What do you think?

Thanks.
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RAY

Replies (8)

jcherry Nov 30, 2004 11:00 PM

I would not even try and give a number to it. But for some kind of reference I quit working with Houndurans to make room for other projects about 5 - 6 years ago. At that time hondurans were just starting into some of the neater morphs that are around today. In our last year we produced 63 hatchlings in a number of morphs. ( albino, hypo, anthy, wild strain tangerine etc.) So with folks like Terry, Shannon and many others that have taken the hondurans to new and greater levels it would not surprize me that the number would be huge.

John Cherry
Cherryville Farms

Below is a wild caught tangerine honduran, so folks can remeber where the hobby has come from. Not nearly as impressive as todays tangerines etc., but we were impressed in 1985. LOL

Cherryville Farms - Reptiles

shannon brown Nov 30, 2004 11:30 PM

John,

Heres a tangerine female That I bought from loyd lemkke in (1992)and was the best I could buy at the time.
She is still pretty nice but I think she has cataracs.She is still breeding for me and is just shy of six foot.

on the #'s

I would guess that there is about 40 ghosts,40 snows (alot have been shipped over seas)and about 20 extremes?

shannon
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Conserving_herps Dec 01, 2004 12:30 AM

Thanks Shanon for the numbers...That's around my guess as well from reading and research. It's funny that in Canada, one posting in the forum mentioned just a few weeks ago that this person who posted was boasting how he or she was the only one in Canada who had produced an albino tangerine hondo this year, and yet here in the States, we saw a lot of those sold and posted in the classifieds...so you mentioned ghosts/snows/extremes shipped overseas... could that be Canada?

Anyhow, thanks for the input.

Ray
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RAY

MarcB Dec 01, 2004 06:31 PM

Ray, I can give you the Canadian info! e-mail me if interested...

Conserving_herps Dec 02, 2004 10:44 AM

Marc,

I sent you my email address separately so you can send email directly back at me.

Thanks man.
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RAY

vanderkm Dec 02, 2004 01:33 PM

I would be interested in that info for Canada as well Marc - I am suprised by how low the estimate of number of snows and ghosts is - I thought there would be far more than that already. Don't seem to be many tangerine albinos produced in Canada yet.

mary v.

jcherry Dec 01, 2004 04:38 AM

Shannon,

Glad to see that there are still some around, That female could be out of the same line as the one I pictured as I shipped lloyd some hondurans several years earlier. By the way have you ever seen the Hondo that Louie Poras brought in. She was over 8' and the largest bodied Honduran I ever saw. A wild caught animal of that size boggles my mind then and now, just think if we could get that huge size into the albino's, hypos etc of today.

john Cherry
Cherryville Farms

Cherryville Farms - Reptiles

shannon brown Dec 01, 2004 11:25 PM

Yeah,They could be related,

Yes,I saw that huge one.If I had a scanner I would post a pic of it.

shannon

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