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Here is a pic of my female azureus at about 11 months old. Great, bold frogs!

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Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

Nice picture, man. What kind of camera are you using?

That's a very nice picture, Homer. Did you finally get a new camera? I remember some rather long-ago posts of your terrariums that were rather yellowish, and you said you wanted to get a new camera. I echo Todd's question--what did you get?

Oh yes, lovely frog, too. A pair of azureus are on my want list for next spring.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

I have a Canon Powershot A80, a 4 megapixel camera (anemic by today's standards, but more than enough for my use). It's a great camera that accurately relates colors as long as it is calibrated to the lighting that is used.

You will really like the azureus, Patty, and I wouldn't hesitate buying a group of 4 instead of a pair. I have 4 New River tincs in a 60 gallon (although only one is a female), and they do well together. When full grown, the females will fight, but you can raise them together without much trouble, as long as there is enough hiding places and space for each. The dominant female will still be pushy to any other frog when she wants to lay (that's how she gets her way).

All the best.
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Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

Thanks, Homer. Everything I have now does well in groups except the pumilios, and even they do O.K. with enough space so they can't see each other from their separate territories. I think the immitators were more active and bold in groups, although the females are genuine battleaxes. Now that I have them paired off in separate tanks, they are all tend to hide from any disturbance and are more secretive, so it's not as entertaining. The competition seemed to stimulate breeding behavior and kept them in the open. I've always felt cautious about either tincs or azureus because of their reputation of being persistent fighters in mixed groups. However, I really would like a group of 4 azureus rather than a single pair for an 80 gallon, so this was nice to know. Successful reproduction isn't my main concern with any of the frogs at this point, but when they do it, it's great to watch the behavior.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

I would think that you could get away with an awful lot in an 80 gallon! Yes, the female tincs can be persistent and not-so-nice, but with enough hiding spaces and room, they seem to manage. Now, 2 females and 1 male in a 10 gallon tank? That would be a bad idea IMHO. However, one of my friends has kept 2 females and 1 male azureus in a 29 gallon for about 3 years now with no real problems--and production is pretty good from them.

However, if you've never kept the tincs before, beware: they are eating machines--just like leucs, but bigger! You will absolutely love them . . . I know I do. I had a great time watching my New River male fertilize a clutch of eggs last night. I don't have a coco hut in there, so they have finally decided to stop laying in a cave they dug under the waterfall and started putting eggs in a bromeliad that is growing at a 45 degree angle.

By the way, your comment about my pictures with my old camera was dead on . . . that camera was awful. However, it was free, and it served its purpose at the time (God rest its circuits).

All the best,

Homer
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Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

I know about eating machines from my P. terribilis. They worship food, and I have dreams about not feeding them enough, so they attack the refrigerator and beat up on the dogs and cats, while I cower in a corner counting fruit flies. It's pretty sick when your dreams are all about frogs and exclude people. I think I either need to go on an vacation to a remote island or commmit myself to some over the top extended care facility.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

Yes, I would imagine that you must know about eating machines, having terribilis. I'm sorry, I forgot you had those!

I don't think you need mental help at all, as there are plenty of people that I would love to forget about as well. Just take that tropical trip in your mind as you stare at your tank and watch your frogs. Besides, Idaho is a pretty exotic location in and of itself, IMHO. I love the mountain scenery, and spent some time this fall hiking in the mountains to get away from the craziness for a while.
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