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Range Map for Aquaflames?

chris_mcmartin Dec 02, 2004 07:07 PM

I don't know if "aquaflame" is the correct terminology for the lizards of which I speak. I'm referring to the ones found in the Wichita Mountains area of southwest OK.

I'm told by a staff member at the Wichita Mountains NWR that the cobalt-blue collareds can be found in a swath from Lawton/Altus into the TX panhandle. I just talked to a guy at work today who said the ones in Lubbock TX were still the green kind.

I'm planning on checking out a couple of locales in the TX panhandle area to see what color of collareds are there. I'll also probably hit the Arcadia Lake dam NE of Oklahoma City. It will probably still be a while before I get more collareds of my own since I'll likely be spending most of next year in an undisclosed location.
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Chris McMartin
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I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

Replies (12)

lizard_lover Dec 02, 2004 08:52 PM

Hey there,

I don't know much about the range of the lizards since I've never had occasion to look for them in the wild, but I believe the "cobalt blue" collareds are dickersonae, not the same as the "aquaflame."

I sure envy you getting to go chase them down where they live! My curiosity about your undisclosed location is piqued, too. Are sure you don't want to disclose it to us?

élan
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chris_mcmartin Dec 03, 2004 06:17 AM

>>I don't know much about the range of the lizards since I've never had occasion to look for them in the wild, but I believe the "cobalt blue" collareds are dickersonae, not the same as the "aquaflame."

No, I'm talking about the blue collaris. "Cobalt blue" is a subjective term, but that's how I'd heard the lizards describe 20 years ago before I knew of their popularity as pets.

>>I sure envy you getting to go chase them down where they live!

I chase down LOTS of reptiles where they live. I've been very fortunate to have done so!

My curiosity about your undisclosed location is piqued, too. Are sure you don't want to disclose it to us?

You need to check out my web site, and watch the news.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

tgreb Dec 03, 2004 09:40 AM

Good luck and God Bless you. Get some arial shots of uromastyx.

PHEve Dec 03, 2004 05:56 PM

I also say God Bless you , Be safe !
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chris_mcmartin Dec 03, 2004 06:46 PM

>>I also say God Bless you , Be safe !

As a Christian, I hope that's more than just a "standard pleasantry."

I do plan on photographing whatever herps I come across. Probably some uros and adders of various types. I have a few months before I'm due, so hopefully I'll get some new locale collared pics first!
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

chris_mcmartin Dec 03, 2004 06:56 PM

>>>>I also say God Bless you , Be safe !
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>>As a Christian, I hope that's more than just a "standard pleasantry."

What I mean is, I hope the warm thoughts are sincere, because I do take comfort in them!
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

PHEve Dec 03, 2004 09:24 PM

As a Christain myself, I could not say that and NOT be sincere!

I could say much more, as I love biblical study and take classes at a Christian university in that(biblical study) and in discipleship.

So Chris, those words I said to you are extremely POWERFUL to me, and I asked them for YOU!

Can't get to into it here , but you will certainly be added to my prayers!
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chris_mcmartin Dec 04, 2004 09:26 AM

>>As a Christain myself, I could not say that and NOT be sincere!

I felt I had to add the clarification so I wouldn't sound like a jerk (which is easy to do on the Internet where you can't see my facial expression!).
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

tgreb Dec 04, 2004 09:26 AM

I too am Christain and yes it is sincere. We should also pray for DVL's(from the chuck forum) son I believe is also there so he should be in our prayers as all the service men and women around the world should be. Tom

Crotaphytuskidd Dec 04, 2004 04:41 PM

Hey man,

Thanks for serving our country. I really appreciate your dedication for us, and pray that you return safely, even though you don't leave for a while yet. You are the man! heh. Again thanks for defending us. God bless you, my friend. (I mean that sincerely)

with respect, and prayers:

-Phil

reptoman Dec 03, 2004 09:44 PM

I'm a little late in chimeing in, but if you went to Sun Dial Reptiles you'll find one of those collard lizards your speaking of. I mistakenly thought this was a Dickersonae, but they said the stock came from Macinstosh so I think it may be one of those collard lizards that your speaking of. And last of all being a christian as well, "May God richly bless you in all of your persuits"........Cheers!!!!

If this is indeed a U.S. specie the blue is as deep as a Dickersonae......
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chris_mcmartin Dec 04, 2004 09:24 AM

>>I'm a little late in chimeing in, but if you went to Sun Dial Reptiles you'll find one of those collard lizards your speaking of.

Yes, this is similar to the lizards I've found in southwest OK, but the ones I find have more yellow on the heads.

I know the general range in Oklahoma (from around Lawton westward through the Altus area); it basically conforms to the area of boulder-strewn mountains (Quartz Mountains, Wichita Mountains, etc) which resemble those in SoCal. I'm interested in finding out if similar habitat exists in the adjacent counties of TX and if the blue coloration is limited to those lizards occupying that habitat.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

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