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Not a leucistic, but a white-strain black ratsnake

bloodpython171 Dec 02, 2004 10:31 PM

Here he is:

Replies (10)

guttersnacks Dec 02, 2004 11:28 PM

what the difference would be between a leuc and a "white strain". The picture isnt all that great, what color are the eyes?

Tom
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Tom
TCJ Herps
"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

bloodpython171 Dec 02, 2004 11:59 PM

His eyes are pink. He is white with a very faint lavender pattern. Here is Michale Joliff's:
http://market.kingsnake.com/image/273233.jpg
Link

Hotshot Dec 03, 2004 08:26 AM

>>what the difference would be between a leuc and a "white strain". The picture isnt all that great, what color are the eyes?
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>>Tom
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>>Tom
>>TCJ Herps
>>"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)

KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit and Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.0 Prairie king snake "Bishop" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.0 Desert Kingsnake "Gambit"

MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

Paul Hollander Dec 03, 2004 06:27 PM

My guess is that it is a combination of leucistic and albino. The leucistic could delete all or almost all color from the skin, and the albino would turn the eyes pink.

Paul Hollander

bloodpython171 Dec 03, 2004 11:45 PM

No, both of his parents are white-strain albinos also. Here is Michale Joliff's:
http://market.kingsnake.com/image/273233.jpg

nazza Dec 04, 2004 05:35 PM

I think Paul is right,
could be the parents are albino het leucistic
regards
nazzza

bloodpython171 Dec 04, 2004 07:03 PM

No, both of his parents are also white-strain albino blk rats aslo

Hotshot Dec 03, 2004 08:29 AM

That is high orange. A very nice looking snake, male going on 2.5 years of age so he is holding his colors very nicely!! I do not think he will fade with age, as he has just gotten more orange with time!
Enjoy

Brian

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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)

KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit and Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.0 Prairie king snake "Bishop" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.0 Desert Kingsnake "Gambit"

MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

Elaphefan Dec 03, 2004 05:26 PM

I think that what you have there is a Black Rat Snake that is both amelanistic and anerythristic. It is not a simple "Albino".

Hotshot Dec 03, 2004 05:58 PM

According to Dwight, his mother was a normal albino and his father was het albino.
Here is the mother...

And a pic of his father...

Ill have to ask him at the reptile show tomorrow.
Brian

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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)

KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit and Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.0 Prairie king snake "Bishop" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.0 Desert Kingsnake "Gambit"

MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

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