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OK to keep snow corn and eastern fox snake together?

britbiker Dec 03, 2004 02:51 PM

Hi, I posted this same message on the corn snake forum. I'm going to be adopting an eastern fox snake this weekend and I was wondering if there would be any problem with keeping it in the same enclosure as my current snow corn. Both are adults. The fox is about 4 feet long and the corn is about 2 1/2 feet. Do you think this would lead to undue stress or would they enjoy the company? Thanks.

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draybar Dec 03, 2004 04:42 PM

>>>>It is best to keep snakes separate. Especially different species.
Yes, a lot of people do, and have, kept snakes together but there is no true benefit to it.
There are definite drawbacks, though.
If one becomes sick there is a very good likelihood the other one will get sick as well.
It may also take a while (usually too long) to determine which one is the sick one.
If one regurgitates its food you won't know which one unless you happen to get lucky and see it.
If one has a problem stool you won't know which one.
Although a slight possibility, it has happened, one could eat the other. The smell of a prey item could trigger one snake to eat the other.
Like I said, this doesn't happen often but it has happened and is a possibility.
One or both of the snakes could be stressed by the presence of the other. Stress can cause a drop in appetite and lead to other health problems as well.
People will put multiple snakes in an enclosure and ask why one isn't eating.
When they are told it is probably due to stress caused by the other snake, the response is almost always "they like each other, they are always under the same hide together". Well this probably just means that hide or area of the tank has the optimum conditions they are looking for.
Snakes do not LIKE each other or ENJOY each other’s company.
So, in my opinion it is best to house them separate.
There are many reasons to keep them separate but no GOOD reasons to house them together.
I have usually found that when a person asks this question on the forum they have already made up their mind.
So, if you decide to keep them together, watch them closely. Keep detailed records. Lack of appetite and problem sheds can both be signs of stress, as can regurgitation.
If you see any signs of stress separate the snakes.
Also, be sure to feed them in separate containers and give them time to settle their feeding urge before placing them back together.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

Elaphefan Dec 03, 2004 08:37 PM

Jimmy,

As often as you have been kind enough to answer this type of question, do you have this answer saved on your computer so that you can just cut and paste it in quickly?

Great picture!

Rick

draybar Dec 04, 2004 02:21 PM

>>Jimmy,
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>>As often as you have been kind enough to answer this type of question, do you have this answer saved on your computer so that you can just cut and paste it in quickly?
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>>Great picture!
>>
>>Rick

Ha ha
actually yes I do.
I have changed it here and there and sometimes modify it for specifics but yes there is a rough draft saved on my 'puter.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

hermanbronsgeest Dec 07, 2004 02:04 AM

I don't think it will be a problem, since both species are quite adaptive snakes which share many behavioural similarities. But keep in mind that the Eastern Foxsnake prefers lower temperatures than the Cornsnake, so the cage must be large enough to have both a warm and a cooler part. Also, if one is a male and the other happens to be a female, the two species might interbreed. If that is what you want then go ahead, but with a snake as rare as an Eastern Foxsnake I would prefer not to polute the very limited genepool of captive specimens. Why don't you trie to get another Eastern Fox instead?

Greetings,

Herman Bronsgeest.

britbiker Dec 07, 2004 09:17 AM

Actually, people keep bringing up the breeding question but that's not what I had in mind. I just wondered if some snakes would be happier with company. I guess for an old guy I've still got too much of a kid's mentality. Thanks.

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