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.. I had this girl out the other day and thought I'd shoot a pic or two. This is one that didn't wash out from the sun through the limbs. Anyway, she's a wc animal and has been my main breeder female ever since.
:Mark

Especially for a WC. Who says that look is gone from the wild? Nice find.

I've read a little about the everglades spp. but I've always been a little fuzzy about what the range is supposed to be. Maybe because my knowledge of Florida geography is pretty limited I just haven't put together the various word descriptions of the range into a "map" in my mind. How far north do snakes go that look more like glades than like yellows? I realize this is an inexact question since opinions vary. But it's a question that is best asked of someone living in Florida. If you know of a map that shows a detailed range for rossalleni I'd love to see it. Or if it's simple to describe the range that would be good too.
Regards
John

Thanks John. She really is better in person. If you could get a copy of R.D. Bartlett's "Florida's snakes" (University Press of Florida)2003, it shows a small range map as does Tenant's "Snakes of Florida" (unknown).
I'd say the Kissimmee prairie from just north of Lake Okechobee and south through the 'glades.
Thing is, at nearly any spot there you may find varying degrees of "'glades look". Some friends were down near the canefields last year and found 3 under the same cover. All three were quite different. One a more typical yellow, one nearly typical 'glades, and one kinda in-between.
This one was found on the south west side of Lake Okeechobee and looks good in my orange tree.
:Mark

see how that looks. Very interesting about finding the whole spectrum of yellow / orange obsoleta under one rock so to speak. Makes you wonder if there is such a subspecies. I wonder if two "glades" could produce radically glades and radically yellow snakes in the same clutch.

I left a similar request for range info on the "other site" for Dick Bartlett (I'm an impatient bugger). Hey, maybe he'll send me his book!! Just kidding, I'll try and pick it up soon.

Well I thought that was a very good photo of your glades. If she's even better in person then I better put in an order for hatchlings now in the off-season. But I know how sometimes a photo doesn't capture the colors we see.

Best regards
John

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