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I got my leo yesterday!!!

-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 10:22 AM

It was sort of unexpected, but here's how it all panned out.

I got my mom to help me empty the water out of the 10 gallon fish tank I was going to use, and we started cleaning it, and she decided it would be a good idea to go look at the local petshop and see what supplies we can find. This local petshop is very nice. They have a knowledgable staff caring for the reptiles, and every animal is always extremely healthy there. So I started looking for the supplies seperately, and my mom pointed out their "leopard gecko kit". This was around $70 I think, and it came with a 10 gallon tank, a screen lid, screen lid clips, heating pad (zoomed...I currently have it on a dimmer until i can order a thermostat), an incandescent strip light to go on top that holds two of those thin 15 watt red bulbs (also included)...I actually like that a lot for this particular setup, because it brings the temps in most of the cage up only a couple of degrees (which is good for when the house gets a little chilly), and allows for good night viewing. The heat pad makes the hot spot. Anyways, besides that it came with a good size grapevine log (which I'll probably give to my beardie or uro, because it doesn't make sense taking up so much floor space of a terrestrial gecko's tank), a water dish, repcal calcium w/ d3, which is good because I was almost out, and something I am only currently using in the humid hide, because I find it to be very inadequate substrate for a gecko...red cypress...basically shredded wood. It works well for the humid hide, but I don't think I would let the little guy hunt on that stuff!

Anyways, we got that together, plus a couple of hides, and we were about to go, but I decided to have one of the employees take a gecko out for me. They picked out a great looking leo, one that was much more tame than the others (though still quite fast, lol), and when I got to hold it in the palm of my hand I was sold. He's presumably a male, about 6 monthes old, and about 6" long. He's such a little cutie too. Yesterday when we put him in he just walked around his cage inspecting everything and then settled into the warm hide. Later he moved over to the cool hide for night, and when my mom woke up early this morning she caught him out exploring again. I think he's settling in pretty well. I'll probably try putting a few crickets in on monday, and maybe try interacting with him in a week or two. I don't plan on handling him much, but I want him to be tame enough by the time he gets bigger that I won't have to try to restrain him when I do take him out.

Right now the cage is very bland. It's just papertowels on the ground, a warm hide, a cool hide, a humid hide (on the warm side), and a dish of water, all under a red glow. I think I might put some fake plant life in the spruce it up a little. Maybe one of those vine-like thingies with the fake leaves all over it. I'm also thinking of trying something different for substrate once he's an adult. I'm thinking about doing a combination of slate pieces in a thin layer of dirt, so he will get the luxury of a fairly natural setup, without having a substrate that's easily ingested (I use dirt with my mali uromastyx and as long as you don't let it dry off too much it's packed down good...there wouldn't be much of it visible anyways, it would just fill in the cracks in between the broken up slate...I'll see what happens, I might end up just continuing to use paper products and shelf liner...tried and true).

Thanks for all of the help. I've been monitoring the tank temps, and it seems to be pretty good right now. When I get a thermostat it will be even easier.

Replies (12)

peachstategeckos Dec 05, 2004 11:10 AM

Congrats! Sounds like you've got everything you need. Good luck with him!
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Katie
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-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 12:00 PM

He's a great looking little gecko. He's got a nice full tummy, good thick tail, strong/fast, and even though he's still shy because it's the second day in his new home, surprisingly active. He doesn't like to move around much when people are around, but like I said, he was up late last night and early this morning wandering around. Then, when I changed his water today he was in the warm hide, but a couple hours later after I got off the phone with my girlfriend I checked on him and he was in the cool hide. Last night when me and my brother were watching a movie in the family room (where the gecko tank is), he was asleep with his head out the little door of his cool side hidespot. Such a cute little lizard.

I feel really good about this lizard, and I think he's going to be my first lizard to not have any health problems. my beardie was infested with parasites, and through all of his treatment I felt bad for him so I gave him extra crickets (which I now really regret), and he decided not to eat any greens or veggies, which eventually led to minor kidney trouble, that I treated with fluid therapy. Now he's as healthy as he's ever been, and he just eats repcal pellets (specifically the red ones), and only a couple of pieces of greens now and then when they get in between him and his pellets.

my mali uromastyx I got from a really horrible owner last december 23rd. She has a large white scar where a heat lamp fell on her, and a thin white scar line where the rim of the clip lamp made contact. The guy was keeping her (a full grown uro..around 12-13" and fairly bulky) in a 10 gallon tank, and after the heatlamp fell on her, all she had was a hot rock. She's much better now. People like that guy should be shot, and he really didn't know any better. That's why the general public needs more education on reptiles and their care. Most people know how to take care of a dog or a cat, a fish or a hamster, but not reptiles.

peachstategeckos Dec 05, 2004 12:46 PM

I totally agree! We need to be patient though when it comes to giving advice on how to care for herps. People take it the wrong way of you start accusing them of wrong husbandry. I hate it when I go to like petsmart and I hear the people there giving bad advice or see someone come in and decide 3 min after they see a Leopard Gecko to get it right then even if before they had no idea what one was.
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Katie F.
Peach State Geckos
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-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 03:00 PM

The guy that I got the uromastyx from even told me "I have a book on them... if I had more time I'd do some of the stuff they say in it"....if you don't have time to take care of the lizard, don't get it!!! Apparently it was his friend's before he got it, and I'm just glad that one night my dad went over to his house and saw her there, and that led to me taking her. She was in rough shape, and her enclosure was even worse.

Here's exactly what she was kept in. As soon as I got her home I set a tank up for her, took her out of it, and threw all of it right in the trash (after taking this picture).

-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 03:02 PM

She still hasn't lost any weight since then...well, a little tiny bit just recently, because I think I'm beginning to try some things to get her to eat a little less and poop a little more frequently. Being cooped up in that little tank and having food thrown at her basically (and not regularly) is what got her in such bad condition.

That and having a 125 WATT HEAT LAMP FALL ON HER! You can see the bigger scar clearly in this pic.

-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 03:05 PM

Well, recently anyways, in her 48"x13"x13" cage (I'm working on new cages for her and the bearded dragon....48"x24"x24" each!). She hasn't changed all that much in appearance, but she acts much more healthy and happy. I think she had a calcium deficiency, because she has some mis-shapen ribs...but that's understandable from the conditions she was in. It's just so horrible.

I'm sorry, but when I get on the subject of this, I just can't stop myself from talking about it...it makes me so mad and sad at the same time.

-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 03:05 PM

NM

peachstategeckos Dec 05, 2004 03:28 PM

I know what you mean..my next door neighbor had a MHD and it was dying but he wouldn't listen to me when I would give him advice. It ended up dying because no one in his fam would take care of it but they wouldn't let anyone else have it to give it the proper care it needed. I'm kinda glad it died just so it wouldn't have to suffer. I get so mad when I go to petshops and I see a sick gecko or another animal even dead ones sometimes. I've told the manager so many times about things like that but since I'm young they act like I don't know anything. I just stay away from places like petsmart as much as I can just so I don't get mad again..lol.
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Katie F.
Peach State Geckos
Breeding Mealworms
My Email

peachstategeckos Dec 05, 2004 03:31 PM

BTW..I'm glad you were able to take the uromastyx. Lots of poeple won't take the time to give an animal all teh care it needs after it's been ill treated. I have a healthy uro so I can't imagine how it is to have one in such a bad state. Thanks for spending your time and money to take care of it. We need alot more people out there that are willing to do that.
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Katie F.
Peach State Geckos
Breeding Mealworms
My Email

-ryan- Dec 05, 2004 04:21 PM

it can be annoying sometimes having to do so many extra things for her to keep her healthy, but that's something I knew I was getting into when I got her. I have to bath her for around 5 minutes every night or every other night just to keep her regular...I think it might actually be more that after the bath she has to bask for another hour or two to dry off, so the more basking means more digesting. Also, she refuses to go to the bathroom in her cage. In the whole year I've had her she's gone in her cage maybe 3-4 times at the most. Everyday I have to take her out to run around my room and have some newspapers with towels under them for her to go on...the trouble is, she'd prefer to go on my carpet, so i have to watch her like a hawk, and once I see that little tail start to arc I've gotta get her on the newspapers as quickly and gently as possible. She definately is a strange lizard.

peachstategeckos Dec 05, 2004 04:25 PM

>>it can be annoying sometimes having to do so many extra things for her to keep her healthy, but that's something I knew I was getting into when I got her. I have to bath her for around 5 minutes every night or every other night just to keep her regular...I think it might actually be more that after the bath she has to bask for another hour or two to dry off, so the more basking means more digesting. Also, she refuses to go to the bathroom in her cage. In the whole year I've had her she's gone in her cage maybe 3-4 times at the most. Everyday I have to take her out to run around my room and have some newspapers with towels under them for her to go on...the trouble is, she'd prefer to go on my carpet, so i have to watch her like a hawk, and once I see that little tail start to arc I've gotta get her on the newspapers as quickly and gently as possible. She definately is a strange lizard.
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Katie F.
Peach State Geckos
Breeding Mealworms
My Email

MdngtRain Dec 05, 2004 12:20 PM

Congrats on him. Hope all works out well & he continues to be happy & healthy (and all of your herps!) Enjoyhim

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