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What a moral booster! Freeways shut down, traffic backed up for HOURS. He came to visit the troops BEFORE their deployment to IRAQ. What a P.R opportunity..for sure! Allmost as good as the one on the flight deck, with a flight jacket on and banner that says "Mission Accomplished"

I feel so invigorated! (Someone pass the vomit bag please)

Sincerely,

Fred

And compare that to Kerry and Edwards. Two morons who wanted to be president/vice pres. but never even bothered to visit the troops in Iraq (much less V.A. hospitals), while many senators and congressmen who weren't even considering running did so--many of them multiple time. This should show you who really cares and is genuine and who is not.

If you can get past your bias and cynicism, you will see who really cares. After all, why does Bush need a P.R. stunt? He is on his second term so he can't run again anyway, the public already showed their support for him in the last election, etc. (If he did this prior to the election, your little conspiracy cooking mind would claim it was just a stunt, even though you had no proof of this. Now, with nothing to gain, you still try to call it a stunt. The liberal mind is an amazing thing--delusional, but amazing!

And here we are, in a war, after being attacked. And you are complaining about the president's support of the troops because it causes traffic problems? amazing!

Rodney

(Rodney)And compare that to Kerry and Edwards. Two morons who wanted to be president/vice pres. but never even bothered to visit the troops in Iraq (much less V.A. hospitals), while many senators and congressmen who weren't even considering running did so--many of them multiple time. This should show you who really cares and is genuine and who is not.

(Me)Bush is fumbling though: Intelligence bill:

Several Republicans, however, still don't like the measure. House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., is upset because it doesn't prohibit states from giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants or change asylum laws to make it more difficult for terrorists to get into the country.

What a useful intelligence bill. Will cost taxpayers $$ but will it truly make us safer ?

I've said it before, I'll say it again. If Bush had had someone runnning against him with even one iota of sense, and that didn't have an ultra rich, ultra weird, loud mouth batty wife he'd have lost.

(Rodney)If you can get past your bias and cynicism, you will see who really cares. After all, why does Bush need a P.R. stunt? He is on his second term so he can't run again anyway, the public already showed their support for him in the last election, etc. (If he did this prior to the election, your little conspiracy cooking mind would claim it was just a stunt, even though you had no proof of this. Now, with nothing to gain, you still try to call it a stunt. The liberal mind is an amazing thing--delusional, but amazing!

(Me)Liberalism is a mental disease.

(Rodney)And here we are, in a war, after being attacked. And you are complaining about the president's support of the troops because it causes traffic problems? amazing!

(Me)Now you be nice. That evil bush guy is gonna bring this country to it's knees and you know it (Thats a joke) I wish he'd get a few things straight though. Maybe in four years we'll get some candidates running that are worth more than a you know what in a whirlwind. I doubt it though. It seems the definition of politician is "theiving lying tell us what we want to hear while doing the opposite".
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Thane

Bush cares. He's just incompetent. :-P

Since bush is really a mouthpiece for Dick Cheney..is Cheney careing and incompetent also?

Cheney and Bush DO care...about their own constituents, companies political ties. But to think that they care about the American Public, much less the fighting men and women of this current war...is to do those same people a discredit for serving in the first place.

"We go to war with what we have" was Rumsfelds remark.

Then I beg the question: why did not the Commander In Chief Go To War with what he had when it came HIS turn to do so?

Answer: Because going to War isnt something that the draft dodging and war evading likes of Pres George Bush or vice Pres Dick Cheney are likely to do. No...instead they foolheartedly send our sons and daughters to do what they did not have the nerve to do........or perhaps they had better things to do(Quote by Dick Cheney about his dodging the draft through deferments)

Please spare me the rhetoric, you pay the price and then you can talk about who should and shouldnt potentially be injured or die. You avoided service then you shouldnt be so eager to put troops into harms way or missions that have no exit strategy.

Until then.......(Bush et call) just be nice politicians and raise the taxes of the middle class and poor while decreasing the taxes of the rich. Just be....politicians

Most sincerely,
Fred Albury

So I guess G.W. Bush is just peeing on his father's service in the military by being such a hypocrite as well? Why is it that when a president who did not serve in the military sends troops out to do their JOB, they get slandered for it? If I remember correctly there are 2 rather large holes in the middle of NYC because of some terrorist a$$H0l3$. Should we not go after the people who are resposible? Should we not go after people who could very well make the 9/11 scenario happen again? And I'm also sick and tired of hearing how "the president is sending off our sons and daughters to die in a meaningless war". First off the "sons and daughters" were not drafted into the military, they signed up for it. Second, you don't go into the military to pay for your college and new car when you are discharged(G.I. Bill), you go to train to fight for and protect our friggin' counrty. Everybody, especially parents of enlistees, nowadays think that the military is a free ride to a college education without realizing when you are called on to do what you are being trained to do, you may in fact get killed.

Honestly think to yourself: Does in REALLY matter to your personal life whether the president is a Democrat or Republican? Is it really going to affect what you eat on Friday night whether the pres. can't speak well in public or is getting oral sex from an intern? Is it going to factor into your Chrismas budget and whether or not you can afford to get aunt Harriet a new sweater if the commander in chief is fumbling for words or fumbling for skirt zippers? No. If you are a hard working taxpayer who has a brain on his/her shoulders, it won't make a dang bit of difference.

As for taxes, I make about $20,000 per year. The top 7% of people with the highest incomes in the U.S. pay more than 70% of the income taxes. Does that seem fair? Raising the lower and middle class taxes has been going on since the early '90's. Check your tax records and see if I'm lying. Decreasing the taxes in the upper class is also beneficial to middle and lower class citizens as well. Who do you think signs your check? Who do you think you are buying your car, home, furniture, jewelry, groceries, computers, etc. from? Tax the rich(business owners and investors) more and guess what...the prices for ALL of those things I listed just went up.

Support the troops, which does include the commander in chief. Live your life and stop blaming all of the bad crap that happens on the government. I don't think I see ANYONE sending a tip($) to your local congressman when a law they pass helps you out, but you sure do see alot of complaining when they get blamed for something that doesn't.

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Derek Roberts
Sonoran Reptile Breeders
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It affects us all when he usesd our hard earned tax dollars to declare war on other countries for the sake of EMPIRe...NOT security. And sends our sons and daughters to do so.

Wake up and smell the new series of never ending wars.

Whether Republican or Democrat...makes no diffrence, warmongers are warmongers.

Even if they are idiots with people behind them telling them what to do.

Sincerely,

Fred

Other countries....you mean Iraq? Afghanistan? These countries? These countries who house world terrorists? The same terrorists who blew up the WTC and embassies worldwide? The same terrorists who may/may not have nuclear capabilities? When would be a good time to weed these "people" out? When O'Hare airport in Chicago goes up in a mushroom cloud? Warmongers? Who are we talking about? G.W. Bush who sent troops into Iraq? Clinton, who sent troops into Haiti and Somalia? Bush Sr. who sent troops to Iraq and Kuwait? Reagan who went to Grenada and who ended the cold war with Russia? You can go back as far as you want with the presidency and make a case for any president being some degree of a "warmonger".
Our hard earned tax dollars are going toward funding the war in Iraq. They are going toward aid in foreign countries. They are going toward welfare and social services. They are paying and average of $30-40,000/year per convict in high security prisons. We are the strongest country in the world. Why? Strong military. When is the last time a country invaded the U.S.? 200 years ago...300? We're complaining about taxes when we should look at our neighbor to the north and the UK. Canada's income tax is MUCH higher than ours, but they have socialized health! That means they get to either wait 8 months for an operation, or come to the U.S. and have it done sooner, but pay out of their pocket.
Like I said, who the president is does not affect the average consumer. People adapt and change ALL of the the time. If you get fired from a job, you can find a new one. There are ALOT of jobs out there. You may have to sacrifce something, but everyone does at some point in their life.
If you don't like the president, protests, vote against him, write to your congressman or run for office yourself. Get your friends to do the same and then get their friends to do it, and so on and so forth. If they still get re-elected, well, you were the victim of a democratic society. Being the victim of a democratic society means you get to go home, sit in your lazy boy as Monday Night Football plays, type into your laptop about how crappy the president is and how the government is cheating you out of you income, while sipping a cold brew and ordering a Pizza Hut thin crust on your Motorola cell phone. Some people just have it bad, I don't think most Americans appreciate what they have.

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Derek Roberts
Sonoran Reptile Breeders
sonoranreptile@cox.net

Actually some of us do. And we are old enought to remember what we are losing.

Frank
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