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My Crested update

deadoktober Dec 07, 2004 03:38 PM

Since she has shed her scab, I've put neosporin on her, she is in a steril enviornment, and I've been keeping the moisture in pretty good.

She is not getting better...the way that I see it, she is getting worse.

She is now constantly orangish red and now when I go to touch her...she grunts. I'VE NEVER HEARD A CRESTED GRUNT BEFORE!!!
I tried feeding her last night, she ate a little the night before. I am so damn scared to touch her now.

I've called a local Herp vet, and they told me that they don't care for geckos!!! WTF! Geckos are reptiles aren't they? So I asked for a referal...they told me that they didn't have one and that they were real sorry!! GRRRRRR

I live in the portland oregon area...would anyone know of a Herp that that DOES take in Geckos???

At this point my cold heart is breaking because she is in pain and I want to ease it for her...but I can't.

My thought process is becoming of one when dealing with a sick old dog...and it's not fair.

*very, very, sad*

Replies (12)

lzrdldy530 Dec 07, 2004 04:32 PM

Do you have a local veterinary teaching hospital connected to the university? Here in Wisconsin, at UW Madison, the veterinary teaching hospital was my best bet when poor Popcorn prolapsed half of his goodies. They weren't cheap, but he's back in perfect health, if a bit lopsided in the rear, and breeding like always.
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Terri
4:8:7 crested geckos: Popcorn, Goldfish, Harley, Bear, Big Red, Olive, Smudge, Blackie, Belle, Brilliant, Tina, Brick, Toni(y), Kermit, ChiliPepper, Spot, WildFire, WildTiger & Randy(i)

umop_apisdn Dec 07, 2004 05:24 PM

i dunno if it helps the situation at all, but if im correct, your friend was the one with the crested with MBD. i also think that that might be the one you were never able to recover, which made me sad. i thought she was a cutie. anyway, you can tell your friend that today i bought a handicapped crested from the local pet shop that wasnt selling because she had her rear right foot bitten off as a baby (weird, eh?). anyway, you can tell her she inspired to take in this gecko, who is otherwise stunning (yellow drab colors that fire up to a bright orange dalmation). and sorry, im not from the portland area but ill keep my fingers crossed for you that you find a good place that will care for your gecko. can't say ive ever heard them grunt, but i have heard them squeak when i touch em.

deadoktober Dec 07, 2004 05:34 PM

My friend was the one with the cute MBD crested...and that one is doing just fine and as sweet as she can be. We have never been able to find Aster (I think he was totally eaten)...but willow has been through a lot...and I hate to see that effort in vain.

The only University around here I believe is OSU that have a Herp vet program. I will try to contact someone there.

here is a pic of the both of them...the one with the dalmation spot on his back is Aster (RIP?) the other is Willow...

agrrlandherguy Dec 07, 2004 05:50 PM

Steph- Call OSU, I think that would be a good idea. I don't know what they will tell you other than what I already have. Since it is a flesh wound, it will hurt and although you feel bad and want to ease her pain, it is something that will heal in time. It is not like they can stich it back up.... I would think the only thing else to do it to get her on oral antibiotics (I only have injection on hand) because we both know that giving a tiny gecko an injection may have saved her life and gotten rid of the "puss bubbles" but now is the source of a problem all on it's own.

agrrlandherguy Dec 07, 2004 05:47 PM

Aw, that totally warms my heart! You will be happy to know that Bonnie, my handicapped gecko, is actually not the one that went AWOL. The situation was this: I was housing deadoktober's two baby geckos with my female (the one with MBD) while my husband was constructing her cage. However it happened, the babies escaped and we have recovered one. The one we found is the one having problems right now and the other one, well I still watch for him everyday.

Horray for handicapped geckos. It makes them so much more special.

deadoktober Dec 07, 2004 07:34 PM

She is still alive. Her wound has not hardened or formed a scab. A couple of puss bubbles are back however nowhere near as bad.

When I got home, I touched her and she did not grunt so I picked her up. She walked around on me and I was able to hand feed her one syringe of "food". Thank God she at least ate.

I didn't supply any neosporin today, I thought maybe I should give the wound time to breath and harden. Like you want to know this but her droppings are unformed. (probably the lack of crickets in her diet)

lzrdldy530 Dec 08, 2004 02:57 PM

Do you want the wound to harden? Just curious, because when one of mine chewed the tail pad off of another, a vet friend advised keeping neosporin on it so that a scab wouldn't form.
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Terri
4:8:7 crested geckos: Popcorn, Goldfish, Harley, Bear, Big Red, Olive, Smudge, Blackie, Belle, Brilliant, Tina, Brick, Toni(y), Kermit, ChiliPepper, Spot, WildFire, WildTiger & Randy(i)

EricKlees Dec 08, 2004 11:30 PM

You want the open wound to heal and to do so it must form a scab. Keeping it moist with neosporin will help with fighting infection but without a scab on it the wound stays open and leaves a greater chance of an infection to set it. The cresteds walk through the stools and such and the cage is never totally clean and that breeds bacteria.

You never want a wound to stay open so its exposed to infection.

A vet that told you to keep neosporin on it and not to let it scab over is severely mistaken.

Eric

lzrdldy530 Dec 09, 2004 01:06 PM

I know that I thought the same thing at the time, but the chewed tail pad was not a deep laceration, but a surface wound, and that is what the vet told me to do. I did keep applying the neosporin, and the tail healed but the pad was of course destroyed. I had a female who suffered a bite (kind of a hole) on her head from her mate, and I kept that moist with neosporin also, and it actually healed faster (even without a scab) than I'd expected, so I can't explain that, either.
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Terri
4:8:7 crested geckos: Popcorn, Goldfish, Harley, Bear, Big Red, Olive, Smudge, Blackie, Belle, Brilliant, Tina, Brick, Toni(y), Kermit, ChiliPepper, Spot, WildFire, WildTiger & Randy(i)

tworavens Dec 07, 2004 10:56 PM

Here's somewhere you might try:

Mark Burgess, DVM
Southwest Animal Hospital
6139 SW Murray Blvd.
Beaverton, OR 97008
Tel: (503) 643-2137
Link

Or here:

Ken Fletcher, DVM
Albany Animal Hospital
629 Madison Street Southeast
Albany, OR 97321
Tel: (541) 926-8817

Or here:

Suzett Gearhart, DVM
Animal Health Assoc Hospital
2835 Willamette Street
Eugene, Oregon 97405
Tel: (541) 345-1544

Ann G. Samsell, DVM
Catcare Limited
1400 Willamette Street
Eugene, Oregon 97401
Tel: (541) 302-5824

I'm not sure how up-to-date these listings are. Hope one of them is able to help you.

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Chris

1.0.1 Coleonyx variegatus
1.0.0 Gekko vittatus
1.0.0 Eublepharis macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus

Terrestrial? Who you calling terrestrial?!!

tworavens Dec 07, 2004 10:58 PM

Almost forgot the most important link:

arav
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Chris

1.0.1 Coleonyx variegatus
1.0.0 Gekko vittatus
1.0.0 Eublepharis macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus

Terrestrial? Who you calling terrestrial?!!

agrrlandherguy Dec 08, 2004 01:36 AM

Dr. Burgess is not any good, but you might be able to get some oral antibiotics out of him.

I used him a couple times for some Igs from the sanctuary including one of my personal pets and he is very book smart... but has no formal reptile training and is big on keeping reptiles on baytril for 6 months at a time.

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