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MUST READ - RULES FOR POSTING HERE (Specifically Number 8 Lately)... Repost

milwaukeereptile Dec 07, 2004 04:12 PM

REPOST: Though it was time for a reminder of something I wrote a whole back... Especially Number 8 lately

I've decided to make this post mainly for new people, and to help everyone use the board more efficiently. These are purely made up by me and not part of the KS TOS, and I am in no way a Mod. Most of what I have posted I have heard were the reasons that so many good resources and breeders left this forum and no longer post here. Please feel free to add anything I may have forgotten. Please read it in full. I don't really want to hear negative comments unless they are constructive and improve this list or this site.

"Unofficial" Rules for posting here:

BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD:

1) READ PAST POSTS
Go through AT LEAST the last two or three pages of posts and see if your question has been previously answered. If you post a question and do not get an answer, chances are it was recently asked and answered by someone else. A simple 5 minutes of reading could have saved everyone a lot of time. Hell, you might even learn other stuff about leos in the process.

2) READ CARE SHEETS
This probably could have been number one, simply because the type of info in care sheets is pretty basic. A simple yahoo search for "Leopard Gecko Care Sheet" should suffice, and a lot of basic questions will be answered. A simple $10 book on Leopard Geckos should also help in this area.

If you have a new question that has not been answered here or other common sources:

3) INFORMATION
If you are asking a question, list ALL information that you have. This includes (but is not limited to): age, sex, size, tank size, temps, substrate, equipment used, housing arrangements (how many of each sex together as well as sizes), current conditions, what type of food you are using, what kind of supplements. Pictures can also come in handy, but keep it down to a reasonable size so it doesn't take forever to load. Any and all information you have on the care, condition, and activity of the leo can be used to help.

4) LETS KEEP IT POSITIVE
Don't get angry if the response you get is "take it to a vet". Don't get pissed off at the people who are just trying help. If you cannot afford to go to the vet, you should not have a leopard gecko. Most of the people here want what is best for your leo, and if that means an extra $50 for an exam, $15 for a fecal, and a lot more for treatment, then that's the way it has to be. If you can't handle the bad parts of being a leopard gecko owner, then you should not be allowed to enjoy the good either. Don't get upset when you don't get the answer you want. Sometimes there isn't a home-made miracle cure, and I'm sick of people being pissed off at the people they asked for help.

5) TRY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE
We don't need a lot of wasted posts and negativity flying around the forums. Think about what you're posting and if it will really help people or get a necessary question answered. If you're posting for the sake of posting, please don't. If you can ask 5 questions in one thread, do that instead of starting 5 different threads.

6) THERE ARE PRIVATE LINKS FOR A REASON
Please do not post solely to get someone’s attention. There are private e-mail links by clicking on the user’s name. We don't need to hear about specific transactions here.

7) READABILITY
Note that when you post a thread with half words, non complete sentences, and horrible spelling, you are not going to get as many responses. I think twice about buying from someone or getting advice from someone who is like “wat is up wit dat leo dude, he be lookin good”. You will get a lot more responses and people will be more willing to help if you ask a full question and ask it coherently.
A recent example:
"is it normal to have my gecko eat just a few crickets bc i got him sun and i fed him wed night and he ate 2 crickets and 2 wer left thiursday but now i dont c any is it ok for teh ferts week or so f he eats little". (Don't take it personally if this is your post... it is merely an example).
You will NOT get good responses if you ask like this. If you have problems spelling, copy your post into word and edit it before you post it (copy and paste).

8) Also, try to avoid using all caps for posts or subjects. It's just hard to read and I refuse to reply to people who can't spend the extra 2 seconds holding shift or toggling caps lock. This especially applies to the Topic line.

Sorry if any of this came across in a negative fashion, but I thought there were some things that needed to be addressed. I hope to see this place stick around as a resource, and I know many people have stopped using this forum because of the issues mentioned above. So let's try to revive it and make it a place worthy of checking every few hours (like I try to do.. lol). I also think I (or someone) should repost this every few weeks to keep it near the top.
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Brian Skibinski
Brian@MilwaukeeReptiles.com

www.MilwaukeeReptiles.com
Leopard Gecko Care Sheet

Replies (8)

GreggMM Dec 07, 2004 05:53 PM

Brian,
This is the best post I have seen here in a very long time..... Thanks for taking the time to put this up.....

gurnham4 Dec 07, 2004 06:46 PM

Golf clap everyone (tapps two fingers together against palm) bravo

peachstategeckos Dec 07, 2004 06:46 PM

>>REPOST: Though it was time for a reminder of something I wrote a whole back... Especially Number 8 lately
>>
>>I've decided to make this post mainly for new people, and to help everyone use the board more efficiently. These are purely made up by me and not part of the KS TOS, and I am in no way a Mod. Most of what I have posted I have heard were the reasons that so many good resources and breeders left this forum and no longer post here. Please feel free to add anything I may have forgotten. Please read it in full. I don't really want to hear negative comments unless they are constructive and improve this list or this site.
>>
>>"Unofficial" Rules for posting here:
>>
>>BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD:
>>
>>1) READ PAST POSTS
>>Go through AT LEAST the last two or three pages of posts and see if your question has been previously answered. If you post a question and do not get an answer, chances are it was recently asked and answered by someone else. A simple 5 minutes of reading could have saved everyone a lot of time. Hell, you might even learn other stuff about leos in the process.
>>
>>2) READ CARE SHEETS
>>This probably could have been number one, simply because the type of info in care sheets is pretty basic. A simple yahoo search for "Leopard Gecko Care Sheet" should suffice, and a lot of basic questions will be answered. A simple $10 book on Leopard Geckos should also help in this area.
>>
>>
>>If you have a new question that has not been answered here or other common sources:
>>
>>3) INFORMATION
>>If you are asking a question, list ALL information that you have. This includes (but is not limited to): age, sex, size, tank size, temps, substrate, equipment used, housing arrangements (how many of each sex together as well as sizes), current conditions, what type of food you are using, what kind of supplements. Pictures can also come in handy, but keep it down to a reasonable size so it doesn't take forever to load. Any and all information you have on the care, condition, and activity of the leo can be used to help.
>>
>>4) LETS KEEP IT POSITIVE
>>Don't get angry if the response you get is "take it to a vet". Don't get pissed off at the people who are just trying help. If you cannot afford to go to the vet, you should not have a leopard gecko. Most of the people here want what is best for your leo, and if that means an extra $50 for an exam, $15 for a fecal, and a lot more for treatment, then that's the way it has to be. If you can't handle the bad parts of being a leopard gecko owner, then you should not be allowed to enjoy the good either. Don't get upset when you don't get the answer you want. Sometimes there isn't a home-made miracle cure, and I'm sick of people being pissed off at the people they asked for help.
>>
>>5) TRY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE
>>We don't need a lot of wasted posts and negativity flying around the forums. Think about what you're posting and if it will really help people or get a necessary question answered. If you're posting for the sake of posting, please don't. If you can ask 5 questions in one thread, do that instead of starting 5 different threads.
>>
>>6) THERE ARE PRIVATE LINKS FOR A REASON
>>Please do not post solely to get someone’s attention. There are private e-mail links by clicking on the user’s name. We don't need to hear about specific transactions here.
>>
>>7) READABILITY
>>Note that when you post a thread with half words, non complete sentences, and horrible spelling, you are not going to get as many responses. I think twice about buying from someone or getting advice from someone who is like “wat is up wit dat leo dude, he be lookin good”. You will get a lot more responses and people will be more willing to help if you ask a full question and ask it coherently.
>>A recent example:
>>"is it normal to have my gecko eat just a few crickets bc i got him sun and i fed him wed night and he ate 2 crickets and 2 wer left thiursday but now i dont c any is it ok for teh ferts week or so f he eats little". (Don't take it personally if this is your post... it is merely an example).
>>You will NOT get good responses if you ask like this. If you have problems spelling, copy your post into word and edit it before you post it (copy and paste).
>>
>>8) Also, try to avoid using all caps for posts or subjects. It's just hard to read and I refuse to reply to people who can't spend the extra 2 seconds holding shift or toggling caps lock. This especially applies to the Topic line.
>>
>>
>>Sorry if any of this came across in a negative fashion, but I thought there were some things that needed to be addressed. I hope to see this place stick around as a resource, and I know many people have stopped using this forum because of the issues mentioned above. So let's try to revive it and make it a place worthy of checking every few hours (like I try to do.. lol). I also think I (or someone) should repost this every few weeks to keep it near the top.
>>-----
>>Brian Skibinski
>>Brian@MilwaukeeReptiles.com
>>www.MilwaukeeReptiles.com
>>Leopard Gecko Care Sheet
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Katie F.
Peach State Geckos
Breeding Mealworms
My Email

tim5580 Dec 08, 2004 12:33 AM

Maybe they have a really old computer. We had one when I was in elementary school, it typed in all caps, and there was no way to turn it off. We also had to place the phone on the modem for it to dial. Old skool.

>>>>8) Also, try to avoid using all caps for posts or subjects. It's just hard to read and I refuse to reply to people who can't spend the extra 2 seconds holding shift or toggling caps lock. This especially applies to the Topic line.
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Tim W.

skmcwilliams Dec 08, 2004 08:26 AM

I am sure a lot of people coming here are first time posters and maybe this is even their first time posting anywhere. I know KS forums were the first forums I started posting at. Anyway I think this should be a helpful reminder, but we should also not FLOG people if they break any of these commandments but give them some helpful advice. I know it can get frusterating when peopole do one or more of the things mentioned in above post. But I get mored anoyed at a few on this board here that answer peoples post rudely and arrogantly. I know that I got flamed here once five years ago I am sure the people that took part are long gone but it still took me three years to come back here and still keeps me from posting some questions I would like answered, and I don't want anyone else to feel that way.

milwaukeereptile Dec 08, 2004 02:27 PM

These are not meant to be "commandments" in any way. I think that following these rules helps the forum run more smoothly, and keeps people happier. Most of those points were taken directly from people who no longer post here, which also happens to be some of the most knowledgable people in the industry.

Basically, I don't want anyone flamed for breaking one of my "rules", but at the same time I hate seeing 6 posts in a row from someone typing all caps, barely ledgable, with questions that were recently answered, when all it takes is a few minutes of reading and an extra 30 seconds to condense it into one clear, concise post. It's annoying and frustrating.

I know we were all newbies at one point, and most of us made some mistakes. The problem occurs when people refuse to educate themselves and want everything handed to them. Reading the forum (just one page!) would help acquire an ettique as well as possibly answer the question in the first place.
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Brian Skibinski
Brian@MilwaukeeReptiles.com

www.MilwaukeeReptiles.com
Leopard Gecko Care Sheet

skmcwilliams Dec 08, 2004 03:25 PM

Brian, I was in no way referring to you as one of those who answers arrongantly and rudely. Like I said I agree with the most part of proper forum posting that you spoke of. I am just saying lets be a bit patient especially with "newbies". I guess I keep remembering the post when someone came here all excited about that incubation temps causes different sex, and the poor person was strung up and quartered. Okay maybe not that harsh but I kind of doubt they ever posted again after that.

If knowledgable people left here I kind of doubt it was for those reasons but more that there are many people on here now that think because they have had a leo for a month they know everything when they obviously don't and try to convince all especially those who have been keeping geckos for 10 years or more that there ways are wrong. But that is just my opinion and like I said Brian no way referring badly to you

Kendra McWilliams

milwaukeereptile Dec 08, 2004 05:34 PM

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there are many people on here now that think because they have had a leo for a month they know everything when they obviously don't and try to convince all especially those who have been keeping geckos for 10 years or more that there ways are wrong
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Very true. It's by far one of the most frustrating parts of this forum sometimes.
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Brian Skibinski
Brian@MilwaukeeReptiles.com

www.MilwaukeeReptiles.com
Leopard Gecko Care Sheet

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