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Sudden death/black spot on belly

soulseeker Dec 09, 2004 05:10 PM

Hi!

a few days ago I separated a male 6 year old captive bred trinket snake (Elaphe helena), because it seemend to be weak and had "breathing problems", kinda like a beginning respiratory infection. It also stopped eating, but this is not unusall because he always refused food when breeding my female. Because of that signs I separated the male 10 days ago in a separate box.

I observed the snake very carefully for more signs of a respiratory infection, but the symptoms didn't get worse. I had another female trinket snake which actually had a respiratory infection one month ago but I could heal her with antibiotics. She was also separated immediately. Therefore I was aware of any symptoms in that male, I was afraied, that he was infected from the other (in the meantime healed) snake.

In the past few days he breathed quite normally, but remained weak and didn't eat. Because the problem didn't turn out to be respiratory I waited with antibiotics, but this was maybe a fatal error ... Today I found the snake dead in its quarantine box, he seemed to have lost a lot of fluids in his last minutes. I can't tell if he regurtitatet it or if he had diarrea.

But one thing makes me worry a lot - in the middle of the body I saw a black spot, at "stomach height". Is that only a sign of bacterial decomposition or can it mean something worse? I'm worried, that it contained an infectious disease which can harm other snakes of my collection, although I don't maintain any wild caughts and keep an eye on hygiene. Does someone have examined something like that? Currently I don't have the possibility to check the dead snake by a vet.

By the way - all other snakes in my helena-breeding colony are healthy and eating.

Thanks for any comments!

Replies (2)

lolaophidia Dec 10, 2004 05:51 AM

Pretty much all of the snakes that have died in my care over the years exhibited a dark spot on the belly in the mid section. I think it's just decomposition beginning in the gut. I don't know that it will help you to determine the specific cause of death. Best bet is a necropsy on the animal, to see if the vet can find what killed your snake. Good luck with your other snakes, and I'm sorry for your loss.

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Lora

soulseeker Dec 10, 2004 05:58 AM

Hi Lora,

thanks for your reply, that really helps me a lot.

Some good news are also to tell - today one last clutch of the dead male hatches ... very beautiful juveniles, that help to overcome the loss of my breeder male (currently my only one).

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