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03 Suris and a question...

g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 04:12 PM

Here's a couple of 03 FLR suris. I've been complementing selling them in order to get some new blood. Tough call...is it worth selling some spectacular babies in order to diversify my own stock? Let me know what you think...thanks, Gabriel.

03 Lyndsey(Belknap female) X Sal (FLR male)...this is my favorite male (especially color wise). I think he looks more like a belknap animal than just about any other I've seen from FLR.

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g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 04:13 PM

Here's my lone peaks female...huge peaks on the front 2/3rds of her body. Not much, color. I figure she'll be a real yellow animal like her daddy (BoBo). Sorry for the fuzzy pic, but you get the idea.

thanks,
Gabriel

SuppleReptiles Dec 11, 2004 04:26 PM


I bet you are right, mom is high yellow too...

Not mom, but you might be able to recognize this blood. They are not all yellow...

g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 04:31 PM

I have a pretty good idea.

cheers,
gabriel

JohnLokken Dec 11, 2004 04:37 PM

>>Here's my lone peaks female...huge peaks on the front 2/3rds of her body. Not much, color. I figure she'll be a real yellow animal like her daddy (BoBo). Sorry for the fuzzy pic, but you get the idea.
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>>thanks,
>>Gabriel
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CE Dec 11, 2004 04:50 PM

only time will tell I guess. This guy is definately going gold , his sister I'm not sure of .. she's a light creamy color so far.
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Trueredtails Dec 11, 2004 07:54 PM

If they are anything like daddy it should be ineresting to see how she turs out. I know bobo's bro and sis show different base color. The female is gold and at times glowing with gold with jet black patterns but the male is really white buckskin color and sometimes I swear he is pure white with black patterns. If I were you I would hang on to this one because they get better and better with age. Later

-Dylan Keays
Pacific Constrictors
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Trueredtails Dec 11, 2004 07:56 PM

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g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 04:15 PM

been a long week.

cheers,
gabriel.

SuppleReptiles Dec 11, 2004 04:21 PM

It really depends on what you would like to acheive. How many suris would you like to keep? What is the look that you go for? Are you planning on breeding them, if so, what are you hoping to produce?

I can't imagine having just one bloodline of suris. They vary so much, and I like particular traits from various bloodline. Well I am not against inbreeding, if possible I would rather mix up the gene pool.

As for the baby...very sharp looking! It has beautiful color. As for saying it looks more like a belknap, I humbly disagree. The FLR genes are very dominent, and they tend to override other genes. The mother was not an average belknap either.

Hope This Helps!

g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 04:30 PM

I should have said looks alot like Lyndsey who was an atypical belknap but beauitful nonetheless. In regards to your questions. I do plan on breeding (have suris going at it right now, including FLR's chikita). I have ten total suris, and 6 of them are FLR snakes. The others aren't completely spectacular, but they get the job done. I personally don't mind that most are of one bloodline, but it would be nice to produce something more "my own." I don't know, it's certainly a difficult question.

Thanks for your input.

cheers,
gabriel.

p.s. Do you have any photos of "classic" belknap animals? I never get tired of looking at great suris..also, did you end up taking peaks?

CE Dec 11, 2004 04:46 PM

just buy and breed what you like. I personally don't care to much about what bloodline is what , suris aren't rare like some of the other true redtails. There's tons of WC and CBB animals produced every year. I personally like uniform patterns , so that's what I go for , peaks or no peaks , don't matter .. it just has to be very uniform.
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g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 04:54 PM

I screwed up my white balance settings on the picture I sent you. I was able to fix it in nikon capture, fortunately. This photo is much more representative of his true colors.

By the way, I blame you (in a good way of course along with Mike Eckert) for getting the ball rolling with suris and myself. Before I came to kingsnake and saw your animals, I just thought they were cool boas....now I'm a freak and am debating getting rid of the rest of my non-suri collection to go solely with BCC. Of course, as a starving Ph.D. student, there's always the delicate balancing act of how many months of eating just raman noodles do I want to subject myself to so I can buy that one snake.

Oh yeah...the boy you sent me is apparently old enough (fingers crossed). I saw him driving chikita nuts last night).

see ya,
gabe

CE Dec 11, 2004 05:05 PM

a friend of mine has an extra. He raised one from 2001 as a female untill I pointed out to him last weekend that "That female sure is hung" He was devestated! End result is he has a pair of brothers from Bobo X Bats and no female .... so if you need another... let me know These guys are BIG too

g.gartner Dec 11, 2004 05:09 PM

Have any pics, contact info? Do you know if he's ready to go this year? If I got him, it would be worth throwing him in with the pile..maybe he'd be interested in the peaks female or the 03 bats/sal female.

Let me know.

gabe

CE Dec 11, 2004 05:13 PM

and both are VERY thick and orange! I'll ask him tonight which one he wants to part with and send you some pics during the week.

Amanda_Burke Dec 11, 2004 06:13 PM
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