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I've seen a lot of chatter about what people can do to stop bad animal laws that effect us herpers from passing. I think that there is something totally being missed.

People that have hots, big lizards or snakes in state that allow them can do so mostly because those states don't have any laws regulating the keeping of those animals. If your state has no laws pertaining to those animals You should talk to your legislators about introducing legislation that will keep your herps legal.

Introduce an idea to your local representative or senator that will require licensing of these types of animals. Then if groups like the USHS tries to implement a bill to ban the keeping of the animals, your state will already have leglislation covering them, and the licensing will be considered a revenue generator for the state. Don't be paranoid thinking that stormtroopers will smash down your doors if you have a license. Trust me, you want licensing. Licensing allows the keeping of the animals in question.

Ask anyone in a state that bans herps like NJ or NY if they would prefer a licensing system over a ban and they'll say they wish they had it.

I have 100% certainty that nobody reading this will do what I suggest. But when the day comes when your state bans your animals, you will think back on this post and realize you blew the chance to protect yourself.

Don't think someone else will do it... Just go do it.

hello ny has a permit system, there just making it harder to get one for new applicants

They have a VRI that's going to change next year. It's going to make it so that you can't buy or breed anymore snakes. Once the new permit system comes into play, you can basically keep what you have, once they're gone, they're gone.

the more they hear from people keeping venomous reptiles, the more the will think about it, and then laws (not in our favor) will get passed.

They will do what they want regardless.

Hmmm, a long time ago people stopped laws from being passed by rioting, (Boston Tea Party) today we try to be reasonable with the federal/local/state laws by writing nice letters, only to get screwed anyways. It suks, but it's reality (I left dreamland along time ago).

We are all a bunch of robots, programmed/forced to do what they want. Damn the truth suks!
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Chad Bachman

>>We are all a bunch of robots, programmed/forced to do what they want. Damn the truth suks!

Painfully, brutally true.

Good luck,

Doug T

I hate being so negative, but I can't see it any other way.

Take it easy,
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Chad Bachman

After my experience here, I'm pretty certain that all 50 states will have some legislation concerning hots within 5 years. Most of it will be blanket bans.

People talk about needing to organize, but hot keepers for the most part just stick their heads in the sand and hope the problem will just go away.

I don't find your negative position on the topic as anything but having a solid opinion based on analysis of current events.

The Ironies in our society are rather perplexing. We can legally get on a racetrack and drive 200 mph and risk our lives for other people's enjoyment, but you can't keep a venomous snake for your own... that's too dangerous. We can keep a 150 pound Fighting Breed dog (I wont single any breed out) or wolf hybrid, that can chase down and attack someone that it thinks is a threat to its pack (real threat or not), but I can't keep a rattlesnake that can't even chase down it's next meal.

I'm really feeling sad about the direction the culture and my country is taking.

Doug

Doug T