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someone's advertising a trio of apricot/wild type pueblans on the classifieds and he says he's doing so, "in the middle of breeding season with one female already gravid".

does anyone else here breed their triangulum starting in november or even earlier, i guess he's saying? I'd think there would be some interesting stories about the why & how.

terry

Hey Terry, you know I myself tried to get my animals to breed earlier than a previous season one time......only by 4-6 weeks. The group bred during the exact same time frame as the previous season anyway. They showed no interest in each other at all, and it seemed like it just wasn't going to work for me so I never tried it again. I imagine if someone did accomplish this they have a very effecient climate controlled snake room and really kept the light cycles going in a way to fool the snakes into being out of cync with the natural temps for the seasons? I think if it were "easy" many of use would be trying it. In my case I will stick to my regular plan which in TX is fairly easy seeing our winter is usually quite mild. I garage my animals and let them react to the temps as spring sets in with no supplemental heat or AC no matter what kind of winter we have. I find that statement about a gravid snake in January hard to believe. Tom Stevens

>> I find that statement about a gravid snake in January hard to believe.

Tom,
It's more dramatic than that: he was describing a snake that was gravid by the 10th of december.
td

the n/american colubrids i keep are exposed to alot of natural daylight and usually stop eating here [philadelphia] in mid september each year. now they are almost all back out and feeding again after approx. 70 days down and i'll start puttin them together in early febuary. i gave up trying to get them to observe the 'season' according to the calendar. it wasn't working. i think photoperiod is their main brumation trigger and depending on where you live in the country, you'll get different results. but gravid in december?........that ain't right.

Terry
Have you heard of Dr. Slemner or Slemmer or ...

Some years ago he kept corns and Cal kings in a climate-controlled room with artificial light cycle. He was able to alter the breeding season.. i.e. get babies in Feb and brumate them in June, July, etc.

But that was an experiment, and I heard the animals took a few years of conditioning to make the adjustment.

I doubt the seller has such a room. The classifieds can be funny reading sometimes.
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Mark G
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CA coastal rosies "the uglier the better"
Sinaloan milksnakes
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