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Thanks all,
J

There are a bunch of unintelligent people posting snakes that are definitely not yellowbellies for sale, so I understand how you can get confused. People are simply trying to exploit the market to make a quick buck. That snake you posted is a normal, just like this one...
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Looks like they tried to yellow it in photoshop or something. Looks almost green. Uhg. I hate seeing all of those "morphs" in the classifieds. Oh well.

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True but why don't you tell me what one is supposed to look like then and so I'm not confused???????

Hope this helps with your confusion.

Proven Line YB

Captive Hatched YB

You can see the tops of both of these snakes and more belly shots at this link www.nextworldexotics.com/collection.htm , we also have some wild caught adults on our site you can look at

Hope this helps
Jon
Next World Exotics

No that animal is a normal Ball Python. Yellow Bellies look totally different than that animal as well as some of the ones being advertised and sold as Yellow Bellies. Here are a couple pictures of TRUE yellow Bellies.

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Rob Trenor
RK Reptiles
www.rkreptiles.com
www.rkreptiles.net
www.oldworldchameleons.com
www.ballpythonmorphs.net
www.beardedragons.com

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Rob, That is a really nice Yellow belly you have. But yellow bellies do very a lot and I agree most of has been posted lately as yellow bellies don't fit the yellow belly characteristics. But anyway your YB is very nice. Is it a male or female? Thanks

I seen two on the classifieds in the last couple of days that are not even close to being YB's.
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Chad Bachman

Yea I agree, I saw the two posts today. Hell if they are Yellow bellies I have about 1/2 dozen more than I though I had...LOL. I am not 100% totally sure what to look for on a Yellow belly, but truthfully none of them are Yellow bellies unless the prove out, Just because the snake has a yellow tint to its belly doesn't make it a Yellow belly. I have one that I am 97% sure it is, but still needs to be proven. I have a few others that look close but who knows, them are the ones I will be breeding to see if I get baby YB's. Thanks David

The animal pictured is a male that we sold last season. The breeder that purchased that male also purchasd 2 females from us, one of which was a definite and the other was more than likely a definite. Here are a couple of pics of the definite female.

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Rob Trenor
RK Reptiles
www.rkreptiles.com
www.rkreptiles.net
www.oldworldchameleons.com
www.ballpythonmorphs.net
www.beardedragons.com

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Chad Bachman

Notice how the dark pigment is bunched up about half way through the two outside belly scales on Rob's. On yours some of the black goes all the way to the edge of the middle belly scale and there isn't a distinct bunch of broken up dark pigment splotches anywhere like on the yellow belly. Basically it looks to me like the yellow bellies have the black excluded from at least all of the middle belly scale and at least half of the two outside belly scales and then the dark pigment is bunched together as broken up blotches right at the edges.

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Thanks for the explanation and clarification. Very nice snake and thanks again!
Jason

Why are you posting "it could be a yellowbelly" for sale?

Can you answer that question? OR are you exploiting the nieve people as well. Or are you playing crook like many of those others posting WC possible Yellowbellies with this or that trait. Please help me understand.

Andre,

Yes I know what Real Yellow Bellies look like but they do vary. The animal I had posted looks like it is one but again it is not a yellow Belly until it is proven out. It is has all the characteristics of a YB. I did not have it advertised at $5K or $10K like some, I had it priced higher than a normal but substantially less than a Yellow Belly (and substantially less than some others posting animals as possible YB's). It is identical to one that I sold last year( I sold a few of them) that we believed was a yellow Belly and the person that bought it believes that same thing and will be proving it out next year. Also my ad makes no statements about the animal producing an Ivory like some others but rather that there is a chance it might be a Yellow Belly.
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Rob Trenor
RK Reptiles
www.rkreptiles.com
www.rkreptiles.net
www.oldworldchameleons.com
www.ballpythonmorphs.net
www.beardedragons.com

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two that have been on the classifieds by two different people in the last couple of days.
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Chad Bachman

I have had some adults on the classifieds the last few days, and these guys are as close to the real thing as they can get without being proven. Adult imports look a lot diff then c.b. babies. Sometimes when we order them (YB) you do get some that are very close but iffy, we just keep those ones and ad them to our projects, if they prove great if not, no one gets screwed. Heres 2 smokers we just got in, these are beyond a doubt the real deal.

Thanks
Jon
Next World Exotics

I don't think People are talking about your posts Nextworld. Yours are very close to the Proven Yellow Bellies I have seen, But as we all know some of the yellow bellies do prove to be genetic while others do NOT, So with that said NONE of the wild type YELLOW BELLIES are het Ivorys until they are proven. So I think that is why people get mad is when someone says Produce IVORYS or MAKE IVORYS in the AD when the line forsale has NOT BEEN BRED IN CAPTIVITY or has every been proven to produce IVORYs. I myself have posted Yellow bellies before but I never say you will get Ivorys because mine is still unproven, Several people have looked at them and say they ARE YELLOW BELLIES but the fact is the still have to reproduce Yellow bellies or Ivorys before we can label the as such. But this is just the way I see it. Buy the way your YB's look sweet and I hope the reproduce themselves or IVORYS. I think more will be known about Ivorys, Yellow Bellies, and other Question mark animals this 2005 season. Thanks david

on the classifieds were not one of the two I was talking about. The people I was talking about have never posted here (as far as I know).
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Chad Bachman

B.R.A.K.E?

I think one should brake if they see these ads. And one should break sellers head if they sold them one.

Just letting him know it was not his ad that I was talking about, not even sure if I saw his ad(s).
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Chad Bachman

I personally would like to see some of the differences. If we could get several different photos from some of the different owners that would be great.

thanks,
Rob
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0.2 Normal Adult ball pythons
0.2 Normal Adult ball pythons (on breeding loan)
0.1 Sub-adult
1.0 Normal ball python
1.1 Bell Line Pastel Ball pythons
1.0 Adult Het Albino Ball Python
1.0 Het Pied Ball Python
1.0 Het Carmel Ball Python
1.0 66% Het pied Ball python
0.2 50% Het albino Ball Pythons