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how well can geckos see? the reason why im asking is because i have a new baby leopard gecko and he or she is on paper towls. with the crickets dusted with calcium/D3 powder and cricket dust they are white like the paper towls. he also hasnt eaten since i got him yesterday. i was just wondering if he cant see them or if he is still acclimating to the new environment. thanks for the help.

Most likely a lack of vision. My juve can't see pinhead or small crickets unless I hand feed him. The cricket's exoskeleton's are very light in color. I find clipping the lower back legs of the crickets helps tons, they walk right by ard, SLURP!
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0.1.0 Ball Python 2-1/2yrs
1.0.0 English Lop Ear Rabbit 2yrs
0.1.0 Beagle 12yrs
0.0.1 Lep. Gecko (Tremper Albino)juvenile

its accually the motion. color has a lil tiny part in it. but its mostly movement. you can have a dark brown cricket on a white serface, and 9 times outta 10 if its not moving, the leo isnt ganna go for it. so hes probably not seeing it. all my leos are in rubbermade containers with paper towls, and i feed only dusted crickets, and they have no problem cause ther 3week old crickets that move alot. the pin heads are so small that when they move the babies probably dont see them.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. uromastyx-chubby
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

It's not all motion, do you see wind or smoke bomb gas better? If the food item is hard to see, it's not going to help a lot if it's moving. The bigger, darker something is, the easier it is to see. They take no notice to stationary prey, once they move, they strike. But if they can't see the prey well enough, motion may not help. The cricket would have to go into the focal vision of the gecko wich is probably around 20 degrees.
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0.1.0 Ball Python 2-1/2yrs
1.0.0 English Lop Ear Rabbit 2yrs
0.1.0 Beagle 12yrs
0.0.1 Lep. Gecko (Tremper Albino)juvenile

They take no notice to stationary prey, once they move, they strike. >They take no notice to stationary prey, once they move, they strike.
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. uromastyx-chubby
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

Actually, I put a couple've small mole crickets in there once and they immediately burrowed into corners and didn't move. Five minutes later, she came along and dug each up in turn, so I'm guessing scent plays a role as well.

the thing you guys are missing is that im not saying all those other things done play a part. i was mearly saying that motion is the biggest part of the hunt for them. id even say atleast 90% is motion.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. mali uromastyx-chubby
1. sudanese uromastyx-anumbis
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

any time you get a new herp. its a good idea to just let them be for about a week. let them go, dont stress them at all. trying to feed them a day after is probably stressing him. so give him 2 or 3 days and then try to feed him again.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. uromastyx-chubby
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

thanks ill take the crickets out. also im going to go back to my parents house over christmas break and i have to take him in a car for about an hour. will taht affect his eating habbits? and then ill take him back to my appartment in about a month.

He may need adjusting to that new environment as well, so give him a few days to adjust after the move.
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Brian Skibinski
Brian@MilwaukeeReptiles.com
www.MilwaukeeReptiles.com
Leopard Gecko Care Sheet

He's too young and too skinny to not be fed. I don't believe in not feeding lizards for a week if they are new, snakes yeah, they don't need to eat nearly as often. He does eat the crickets, just when he sees them. He has a great feed response.
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0.1.0 Ball Python 2-1/2yrs
1.0.0 English Lop Ear Rabbit 2yrs
0.1.0 Beagle 12yrs
0.0.1 Lep. Gecko (Tremper Albino)juvenile

i put a lid with some mealworms in it so in case he got hungry and so they dont bother him (assuming they dont get out). i know he saw them and was looking at them but when he saw me i think he got scared and went into his hide box. anyway hes sleeping now so well se what happens.

Even I agree a week is too long, but I have done two days (Well actually I fed on the third day, 2 full days of no food). If it's a healthy leo, it needs to eat a lot sooner.

Hatchlings I would only go a MAX of 2 days... they just don't have the fat reserves to go without food.
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Brian Skibinski
Brian@MilwaukeeReptiles.com
www.MilwaukeeReptiles.com
Leopard Gecko Care Sheet

i agree with that, i guess i should have clearafied. a week with out crickets. mealworms should be offered, because they wont bother the leo as much.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. uromastyx-chubby
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

Or give them crickets with their legs cut off.
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0.1.0 Ball Python 2-1/2yrs
1.0.0 English Lop Ear Rabbit 2yrs
0.1.0 Beagle 12yrs
0.0.1 Lep. Gecko (Tremper Albino)juvenile

its a lil easyer to get mealworms, then sitting there and putting the crickets through the pain of riping off there legs. id rather just buy the mealies.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos (rip sunshine)
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. uromastyx-chubby
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

And feeding them to something isn't painful? I don't cut all their legs off,just the lower hind legs. It's not that cruel. It's quite easy too. Younger leo's like to catch their prey.
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0.1.0 Ball Python 2-1/2yrs
1.0.0 English Lop Ear Rabbit 2yrs
0.1.0 Beagle 12yrs
0.0.1 Lep. Gecko (Tremper Albino)juvenile

atleast when there begin eaten its natural. ripping or cuting there legs off isnt very natural.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. mali uromastyx-chubby
1. sudanese uromastyx-anumbis
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

Breeding prey to feed to a gecko isn't natural. Keeping them as pets or specimens isn't natural.
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0.1.0 Ball Python 2-1/2yrs
1.0.0 English Lop Ear Rabbit 2yrs
0.1.0 Beagle 12yrs
0.0.1 Lep. Gecko (Tremper Albino)juvenile

dude, if you want to keep going on with this, then go for it. this is a pointless argument, your not ganna win. doing something to make an animals life better, such as keeping them well in captivety and it not being natural is a good thing. keeping crickets and ripping there legs off cause your too lazy to by mealworm is just messed up. if youd like to keep going on about this, my aol screen name is McChompinator , feel free to i m me.
nevin
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.1. green tree python-bates
.1 jungle carpet python-echo
1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-peace&chaos
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
1.2 leopard geckos-killer, sallean,
1. blizzerd lizzard-grim
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
1.2 bearded dragon-blaze&isis
1. mali uromastyx-chubby
1. sudanese uromastyx-anumbis
2 green Dendrobates auratus-zoate, stricnine
.1 terquise Dendrobates auratus-acid
.1 blue Dendrobates auratus-toxic
.2. phyllobates terribilis-cyanide, arsenic
.1. pacman frog- MR belly
.1 columbian redtail-trinity
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."