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What is the difference between a Hypo and a Pastel, or is there no difference. From What I have heard a Pastel is a type of Hypomelinistic dragon. Can anyone clear this up for me.
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2.1.5 Bearded Dragon (Ember,Sunshine,Misspiggy,Spyro,Inferno,Cinder,Peaches, Moshu)
2.1 Leopard Geckos
(Patternless,Blizzard,Hypo Tangerine)
0.1 Bibron Geck
1 Austrailian Shepard (Griz)
3 Cats (Twilight,Hadies,Pietree)
1 Ferret (Nibbles)

A Hypopastel is a Hypomelanistic dragon with clear nails. When these guys came out from Sandfire Dragon Ranch many people saw that their dragons had light pastel markings. So people that thought they had dragons that looked like hypopastels and started calling there animals pastels not realizing that pastels the way Bob coined the term meant having clear nails.

-Randy

Here is what Paul morlock posted about this last year:

Posted by: paulmorlock at Fri Dec 12 00:24:30 2003 [ Email Message ]
Originaly "pastel" was the name given to animals with clear nails, which is a recessive trait(definately hypomelanistic). Hypomelanistic by definition means "having LESS than normal melan".This leaves a huge area of interpretation.However I would not call an animal with a light pattern but with dark nails a true Hypomelanistic because in my experience the "lightness" is not a recessive trait but more a hereditary trait and generaly these animals can get dark. If they were really hypo they should not be able to produce large amounts of the dark colors.Bob calls all of his animals with clear nails "pastel" regardless of any other color they display. I personaly prefer the term hypomelanistic because of the confusion. The original animals came from the redgolds which tend to have almost no color in the body and some light color(red,yellow,orange) in the face and head.Before this trait was refined the areas that should have displyed the melan were that grey/blue color makeing the animal look as if it were colored with pastels, hence the name. I believe the confusion came about because some people did not understand the clear claw thing and only saw the very light colors the animals displayed. Realizing these were going for more money, they quickly started calling light animals pastels.I honestly think that the popular definition makes more sense..Pastel=light and hypo=clear claws, but Bob is the one who coined the name "pastel" and he ment it for animals with clear claws. All I personaly breed are animals with clear claws and next season I should have a number of animals that are mostly white(snow), however the majority of those should also be het for the translucent trait.I hope to produce an animal that is completely translucent(clear) even as an adult.
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AlphaDragonZ
www.AlphaDragonZ.com

Well I guess then that my little female is a hypopastel then, she has light markings and clear nails. She was traded to me as a Pastel X Orange. Someone take a look at the pic and let me know.

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2.1.5 Bearded Dragon (Ember,Sunshine,Misspiggy,Spyro,Inferno,Cinder,Peaches, Moshu)
2.1 Leopard Geckos
(Patternless,Blizzard,Hypo Tangerine)
0.1 Bibron Geck
1 Austrailian Shepard (Griz)
3 Cats (Twilight,Hadies,Pietree)
1 Ferret (Nibbles)

Take a pic of the nails and post it. From that picture the dragons epilets(shouders) look a little dark for a Hypopastel but only can really tell if I can see the nails.
Thanks,
Randy
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AlphaDragonZ
www.AlphaDragonZ.com