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What could happen.....?.......np

big_dragonfly Dec 15, 2004 12:24 AM

I currently have a hog cross. I'm not sure what the cross is, but I was told by the person that sold it to me that it is hog x longicauda. However, the snake is young and it is still too early to tell. Anyways, I'm going to be picking up a Nic that is het for hypo.

What should I expect a possible litter to look like if I pair the two in the future?

Thanks,

Jon

Replies (5)

RedArgentine Dec 15, 2004 07:36 AM

You should do more research it looks like people are takeing advantage of you.

big_dragonfly Dec 15, 2004 08:24 AM

Well, I may have just spoken ignorantly. The guy stated that this nic has hypo in its bloodline...as in one of its parents was hypo.

RedArgentine Dec 15, 2004 11:23 AM

n/p

big_dragonfly Dec 15, 2004 11:02 PM

I did a bit of research and from what I understand, is that in boa constictors, hypomelanism is a co-dominant gene...which is a type of recessive trait...but that it works differently than a normal recessive. If a boa with the gene for hypomelanism mates with a boa that doesn't have that trait, then you will get a boa that still expresses some degree of hypomelanism. However the look wouldn't be as dramatic as a hypo x hypo.

If I am correct in my thinking, that is why a hog x normal will still show some traits of the hog...such as high pink/peach and the ability to change colors. However, that offspring won't be as pink/peach as a 100% hogg.

Now in the case of the nic. that I started this conversation with, what I was actually told, was that the snake had SOME hypomelanism in its blood. For all I know, it could have been the result of:

hypo x normal = 50% hypo x normal = 25% hypo x normal = 12.5% hypo

you still have some hypo blood in there and a little bit of that hypo might be getting expressed, but not enough to differentiate it and a very well color nic.

However, if you take that 12.5% hypo and breed it to a hogg that is crossed with something normal (and my understanding is that hoggs are naturally hypo), then what you have is:

12.5% hypo x 50% hypo = 31.25 hypo

Paul Hollander Dec 15, 2004 11:24 AM

Actually, most hypos are het hypos. Go to www.dictionary.com and get the definition of "heterozygous". The definition says nothing about appearance of the heterozygous animal. The appearance of the het determines whether a mutant gene is recessive to the normal version of the gene or dominant/codominant to normal. As all het hypos are hypos rather than looking normal, hypo is some sort of dominant mutant gene, not a recessive mutant gene.

Paul Hollander

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