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I was wondering if anyone here has had the pleasure (ha!) of attempting to acquire the "potentially dangerous species permit" from NJ. If so, how difficult was it? I have found the application online and heard how difficult it is to get. I was wondering if there is any truth to that. Also if anyone has acquired said permit I would like to contact you for more information.....Thanx

I have one. Its not hard to get but you must have a real reason. Like your doing research or your a Zoo. You also have to have a strong background(Experience & Educational) with the animal. You'll never get one because you want to just keep the animals as pets.....

Thanx for the reply...
If you don't mind me asking, what was your stated "intent and purpose" for your permit?
Also, you can't have even a hobby permit if you get a (pot. dang.) permit?!? That seems a lil harsh. If I got one I'd have to give up my monitor and any pythons?
Also in your follow-up (where you list species considered "pot. dang.", concerning the Vipers it says (Venomiod), I assume that is a mistake? The state does not differentiate between veomous and venomoid, correct?

I have a PHD in Biochemistry, and use the snakes that I have in a veterinary toxicology lab. It was a long process to get the permit. I had to show proof of my education, provide professional references that showed I had a least five years experience with the species and have my facility inspected. Which they do every year.
As far as Vemoniod is concerned I do know that the state doesn't allow them....
You could always call the NJDFW and ask. The Clinton NJ office handles all the permits, Trenton only handles the hobby permits.
I think the number is 908 735-5450. You may have to leave a message because the Zoologist that handles the potentially dangerous species permits is always out doing inspections. He'll be able to help though...

are reticulateds and african rocks on the list? I still see them in stores and whatnot...do they just not announce updates like that? I work at a store, and we were about to order a baby reticulated to come in for tuesday, and we've had NO notice about anything new being added. We've had a hard enough time trying to sort out the answers we kept getting on the yellow anaconda whenenver we called, but we've finally gotten a straight answer after many, many calls. But never once have I heard anything about the rocks and retics. Arg...it's all very frustrating.
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>>are reticulateds and african rocks on the list? I still see them in stores and whatnot...do they just not announce updates like that? I work at a store, and we were about to order a baby reticulated to come in for tuesday, and we've had NO notice about anything new being added. We've had a hard enough time trying to sort out the answers we kept getting on the yellow anaconda whenenver we called, but we've finally gotten a straight answer after many, many calls. But never once have I heard anything about the rocks and retics. Arg...it's all very frustrating.

Retics and African Rocks are completely legal providing you obtain a hobbyists permit. Only green anacondas (Eunectes murinus) are a restricted species in NJ. And just for the record, the state DOES NOT differentiate between venomous and venomoid...they should always both be considered dangerous.

Hey Snakehound...I'm still waiting on your reply via email about the timbers.

You can't get a dealer, wholesaler, or hobby permit if you have any thing Potentially Dangerous. Here is a partial list they sent me.

N.J.A.C. 7:25-4.8 Potentially dangerous species

(a) No person may possess, transport, take or attempt to take without the required permit, a potentially dangerous species as enumerated in 7:25-4.10(b).
(b) Potentially dangerous species include but are not limited to the following:

CLASS/ORDER FAMILY
Class: Mammalia
Order:
Artiodactyla Cervidae-Deer
Hippopotamidae-Hippopotamuses
Carnivora Canidae-Nondomestic dogs
Ursidae-Bears
Felidae-Nondomestic cats
Viverridae-Civets, Genets, Mongooses
Procyonidae-Coatis, Ringtails, Cacomistles, Kinkajous and Red Pandas
Diprotodonta Phalangeridae-Common brushtail possum, silver-grey possum, phalanger
Edentata Megalonychidae (Two-toed Sloths)
Bradypodidae (Three-toed Sloths)
Perissodactyla Rhinocerotidae-Rhinoceroses
Primates Cebidae-New World Monkeys-Capuchin-like Monkeys
Cercophithecidae-Old World Monkeys-Baboons, Macaques, Guenons, Colobus & Leaf Monkeys
Pongidae-Great Apes - Orangutans
Hominidae-Chimpanzees and Gorillas
Hylobatidae-Gibbons
Callitrichidae-Marmosets & Tamarins
Lemuridae-Lemurs
Cheirogaleidae-Dwarf & Mouse Lemurs
Daubentoniidae-Aye-aye
Indriidae-Indri & Sifakas
Lorisidae-Bush babies, Pottos & Lorises
Tarsiidae-Tarsiers
Proboscidea Elephantidae - African & Asian Elephants
Rodentia Cynomys spp.-Prairie dogs Spermophilus spp.-Ground squirrels
Tamias spp. and Eutamias spp.-Chipmunks
Class: Reptilia
Order:
Crocodilia Alligatoridae-Alligators and caiman
Crocodylidae-crocodiles
Gavialidae-gavials
Squamata Boidae-Reticulated Python
Boidae-African Rock Python
Boidae-Yellow & Green Anaconda
(Venomous) Elapidae-Coral snakes and cobras
(Venomiod) Viperidae-Vipers Crotalidae-Pit Vipers
Colubridae-All Opsthoglyphous (Rear-fanged) species
Helodermatidae-Gila monsters & Beaded Lizards
Class: Actinopterygii
Order:
Perciformes Channidae-All species of Snakehead fish

Class: Aves
Order:
Psittaciformes All birds in the Psittacula Genus
[Psittaculis spp.-Ring-necked parakeets]
Myiopsitta spp.-Monk (Quaker) parakeets
Cyanoliseus patagonus-Patagonian Conures
Class: Cephalopoda
Order:
Octopoda Hapalochlaena spp.-Blue-ringed Octopus

Class: Gastropoda Conidae-Cone snails (Conus spp.)