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Final Tank Setup Before Uro's Arive.... CHECK IT OUT!!!

Johnstud56 Dec 18, 2004 09:35 PM

I love this setup, finally after about $350-400 im set to go...:P What do you guys think?

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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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Johnstud56 Dec 18, 2004 09:36 PM

n/p

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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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-ryan- Dec 18, 2004 10:41 PM

Well, it's definately come a long way. Just make sure the uro doesn't have trouble finding/getting to the basking spot.

reptoman Dec 18, 2004 11:49 PM

John you added stuff too this. Actually wood is not a good conductor of heat, and I agree with the other post that they just like to climb up on the slabs and bask. Your probably looking to have an anbient temp in the cage of somewhere around 85 to 90 degrees depending on which specie. Sorry I missed the slabs you added..........The uva/uvb still stands I'm assuming that this is a mercury vapor bulb?
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reptoman Dec 18, 2004 11:43 PM

I think you've done a good job, however if this were mine, and knowing the absolute light seeking sense that uro's have, I would put another smaller basking light in the middle of the cage, it looks by the light your using that this might be a zoomed basking bulb, if it is then you also need a flourescent uva/uvb tube or a mercury vapoer bulb, it may be that you have that and it was not turned on. Although right temps are important, UVA/UVB is something you wouldn't want to go with out. What specie are you getting? Judging from the distance from the top of the cage to the bottom, you may not have a high enough temp on the basking spot if your using a 100 watt bulb. 150 would do it, I would also add some flag stone or shale pieces glued with silicone so there is a crack they can crawl in and out of. Other than that it looks great!!!! Cheers!
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Phrynosoma.com

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Johnstud56 Dec 19, 2004 05:46 AM

There are 2 100 watt basking bulbs, and a reptiglo 8.0 UVA/UVB bulb as well...
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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Johnstud56 Dec 19, 2004 05:47 AM

Also thats just a wood border, its a screen top.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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Triad Dec 19, 2004 09:53 AM

I think it looks terrific.

Also nice background, that's the exact same thing I have on all of my reptiles backgrounds except my gecko's.

Question, is there any way the cool end of the tank is being heated so it stays at 85?
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1.1 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
1.saharan uro- Iris
1.2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
0.2 leo gecko-Kalypso
0.3 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1.0 tarantula-Peter Parker
0.2 dog-cheeka
0.2 zebra finch-beeps
0.2 african gray parrot-keya
1.0 red headed parrot-pancho
0.3 Fish (sorry no names for them)

For questions, comments or updates email is: uromastyx101@yahoo.com

Triad Dec 19, 2004 09:54 AM

Also, what size tank is that? It's very nice.
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1.1 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
1.saharan uro- Iris
1.2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
0.2 leo gecko-Kalypso
0.3 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1.0 tarantula-Peter Parker
0.2 dog-cheeka
0.2 zebra finch-beeps
0.2 african gray parrot-keya
1.0 red headed parrot-pancho
0.3 Fish (sorry no names for them)

For questions, comments or updates email is: uromastyx101@yahoo.com

Johnstud56 Dec 19, 2004 03:29 PM

Its a 75 gallon tank... and no the cool end isnt being heated... it stays around 80 degrees.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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reptoman Dec 19, 2004 08:32 PM

Hope I'm not being overly redundant, but in a 75 gallon cage I would recomend a 150 watt bulb on the hot end and possibly consider another 100 to 150 in the middle in orde to get up the cool side temps to 85 degrees. Since you say the top is all screen, it is very hard to bring a 75 gallon cage up to ambient heat temps for a uro. Just my experience and opinion, I like your choice of flourescent........Cheers!!! You might consider cutting a piece of lexan or some other plastic on the end of the cool side of the cage so as to capture some of the heat. Since heat rises it goes straight up for the most part.
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jeune18 Dec 19, 2004 09:00 PM

is the piece of wood leading up to the basking spot secured somehow? i would hate for it to lose balance and send the uro and itself tumbling down. the uro might get crushed.
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vonnie
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Johnstud56 Dec 20, 2004 09:50 AM

It is steady and will not fall...
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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herpfreak523 Dec 20, 2004 07:12 AM

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0.1.0. Green Iguana (Ziggy)
0.1.0. Bearded Dragon (Dina)aka Ms.Piggy
1.0.0. Mali Uromastyx (unnamed)(rescue)
1.0.0. Crested Gecko (Ilik)
1.0.0. Leopard Gecko (Kirby)
1.0.0. Veiled Chameleon (Diablo)
0.0.1. Eastern Painted Turtle (Piccasso)
0.0.1. Common Snapping Turtle (Spike)
0.0.1. Red Eared Slider (Yoda)(rescue)
0.1.0. Amel Corn Snake (Lattice)
0.0.1. Pixie Frog (Tank)
1.0.0. Chinese Dwarf Hamster (unnamed)
0.0.11. Hermit Crabs (unnamed)
0.0.2. Goldfish
0.0.2. African Dwarf Frogs (unnamed)
0.0.7. Assorted Tropical Fish
0.2.0. Dogs(Brandie & Molly)
1.1.1. Birds

koashmar Dec 20, 2004 09:28 AM

It's sold at most petstore chains..can't think of the name of it. It's supposed to be a better alternative to sand.
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1.0.0 Thoroughbred
0.0.1 Mali Uromastyx
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Corn Snake
0.0.1 Milk Snake
1.2.0 German Shepherds
0.2.0 Cats
0.1.1 Birds (Conure and Cockatiel)
1.1.0 Rabbits
4 Fish tanks (SW and FW)

el_toro Dec 20, 2004 12:03 PM

If it really is crushed walnut, it should be removed and replaced with something safer. Crushed walnut (despite claims on the package) is not digestible and is sharp enough to cause damage to little lizard intestines - to the point of death.

Playsand is the old standby, though there are other options.
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
2.0.1 Uromastyx Dispar Maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and new neighbor Spike)
1.2 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser, Leeloo, and Sprocket)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)
And several miscellaneous community fish

digiport Dec 20, 2004 09:00 AM

Dont know if this was mentioned and Im not the most experienced in this but Ive heard that having water in the cage can cause humidity which is bad for the uro's.I guess I would like to have this question answered myself so if anyone knows.From what Ive heard being they are a desert animal the water they get/need comes from the greens they eat.Anyone heard differently?

el_toro Dec 20, 2004 11:59 AM

I cut and pasted this from a post I made earlier this week:

It's true that a constant high humidity is a bad idea for uros (over 50% is the general number tossed out), but I think it's good to have a humidity gradient available to your uros just like a good temperature gradient. They can choose what feels comfortable to them that way but not be forced to live in the damp. I have a dry substrate, plus rubbermaid tub den hide in the uro cages with a soil/sand mix that I keep slightly damp. It's the most frequently used hide.

A small water dish will not kill your uro, either. Some actually do drink from a dish, and as long as it isn't a swimming pool, it won't make a hint of difference to the overall cage humidity. I'm more concerned about them walking through it and getting stuff stuck to them. I have water dishes in each cage right now available during brumation - I don't keep one in there during normal times.

Others undoubtedly have different thoughts, but it's worked very well for me.
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
2.0.1 Uromastyx Dispar Maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and new neighbor Spike)
1.2 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser, Leeloo, and Sprocket)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)
And several miscellaneous community fish

Johnstud56 Dec 20, 2004 02:38 PM

Thats millet seed....
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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el_toro Dec 20, 2004 06:21 PM

Oh, hurrah! It's hard to tell from the picture. You did say that you had purchased the millet in an earlier post - I forgot.
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
2.0.1 Uromastyx Dispar Maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and new neighbor Spike)
1.2 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser, Leeloo, and Sprocket)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)
And several miscellaneous community fish

koashmar Dec 21, 2004 03:44 PM

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1.0.0 Thoroughbred
0.0.1 Mali Uromastyx
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Corn Snake
0.0.1 Milk Snake
1.2.0 German Shepherds
0.2.0 Cats
0.1.1 Birds (Conure and Cockatiel)
1.1.0 Rabbits
4 Fish tanks (SW and FW)

Johnstud56 Dec 21, 2004 04:11 PM

Its 48" long, 22 high, and 18 deep, its a 75, I have a 55 gallon for my beardie and its alot bigger.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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-ryan- Dec 22, 2004 05:03 PM

where did you get those big pieces of slate? Also, with the millet, the only thing to watch out for is that when the uro sleeps it doesn't push its head to hard into the wall of the hide, because I've noticed that sometimes uros kept on millet will get seeds lodged in their lips that can cause an infection. Usually this only happens during brumation though.

all in all a nice setup. maybe even throw in another hide right in the middle of the tank for good coverage....the uro will feel more secure if there's a hide just a few steps away where ever he goes.

Johnstud56 Dec 22, 2004 08:23 PM

Home Depot... its only a few dollers a piece... I had it substrate for my Beardie till I switched to play sand... and just made a nice hude/basking spot for the Euros when they come... I added along the back of the tank a 3 foot cardboard poster roll into the millet so they may crawl in there as well.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Pyro/Sandfire/Orange Cross)
0.1.0 High Yellow Leopard Gecko
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Choclate/Tan Dapple Miniature Dachshund
1.0.0 Isabella Miniature Dachshund
0.1.0 Red/White Piebald Miniature Dachshund

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