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I've had 2 baby pixies for a while now and they were both doing great, or at least until yesterday. I came home and one of my pxies was laying stretched out dead on the land and his stomach (i guess) was hanging out of his mouth and all his stomach contents(crickets, worms, mouse fur, etc) were all floating around in the water(I have a 60/40 tank). Any idea what the hell happened. I've had a pac before who had a rectal prolapse but have never seen this. I was thinking about taking it to the vet but didnt see the point in wasting the money. The vets around here arent very knowlegable in herps and I would probably be able to perform a dissection just as well as they could. thanks for your time... Jon
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0.0.2 Giant Pixies
0.0.1 Green Ornate Pacman
2.1.0 Albino Clawed frogs
0.0.1 Superlight Baby Sulcatta
1.0.0 Baby leopard tort
0.0.2 Fly river turtles
0.0.2 Savannah Monitors
1.1.0 Orange and yellow flame Niger uromastyx
1.1.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.1 Ball pythons
1.1.0 pastel Columbian boa
0.1.0 Guyana redtail boa

Sounds like he either had something irritating his stomach(like a parasite) and tried to get it out, or he was over fed and some food was rotting in it and it tried to get it out, with all those different contents that is what I would rule towards.
A vet check might be the best way to find out exactly what happened.
And yes I know I'm not EdK, but I would like to see what he has to say about it as well.
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Any advice is helpful. I had just fed it the night before so thats the reason for all its stomach contents. I actually underfeed them. I prob could feed them a whole lot more often but dont want to overdue it. The entire room is pretty warm because it is where I keep all my herps so I dont think it was due to rotting food. They defecate ALL the time. This has never happened to me and they were doing so well. I have no clue. I mean the entire stomach was hanging out its mouth. I'll see about borrowing my sis's camera and getting pics if I can get over there.
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0.0.2 Giant Pixies
0.0.1 Green Ornate Pacman
2.1.0 Albino Clawed frogs
0.0.1 Superlight Baby Sulcatta
1.0.0 Baby leopard tort
0.0.2 Fly river turtles
0.0.2 Savannah Monitors
1.1.0 Orange and yellow flame Niger uromastyx
1.1.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.1 Ball pythons
1.1.0 pastel Columbian boa
0.1.0 Guyana redtail boa

I am not a vet and I am not comfortable making diagnosis (and believe it or not it is illegal for me to do so).
There are multiple possible causes for this sort of symptom/result, but some of the more common are infections by bacteria (particuarly those that cause red leg), over eating (anurans are pretty hard wired to eat as much as is available), toxicity from another poison.
I would suggest getting a bacterial culture performed on the frog as well as a necropsy.

Ed

I would like to see some pictures of it never seen anything like that.

It looks like this (these A. zeteki had an aeronomad infection)

Ed

pretty much, except mine was much more dramatic. i'll try and borrow her cam to get pics.
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0.0.2 Giant Pixies
0.0.1 Green Ornate Pacman
2.1.0 Albino Clawed frogs
0.0.1 Superlight Baby Sulcatta
1.0.0 Baby leopard tort
0.0.2 Fly river turtles
0.0.2 Savannah Monitors
1.1.0 Orange and yellow flame Niger uromastyx
1.1.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.1 Ball pythons
1.1.0 pastel Columbian boa
0.1.0 Guyana redtail boa

I am assuming that frog is still alive in that picture.Did it get fixed up or did it later die?

That picture was taken while the vets were drawing up the antibiotics needed to inject the frog. Of the three showing symptoms, on died (within about 6 hours) and the other two survived.
Immediate veterinary care is needed if red lef is suspected.

Ed

There were no visible signs whatsoever with my pixie, it appeared completely normal and healthy, even had its good appetite. The entire process was less than a day becuase I fed it before I went to bed and found it dead the next day around 5pm.
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0.0.2 Giant Pixies
0.0.1 Green Ornate Pacman
2.1.0 Albino Clawed frogs
0.0.1 Superlight Baby Sulcatta
1.0.0 Baby leopard tort
0.0.2 Fly river turtles
0.0.2 Savannah Monitors
1.1.0 Orange and yellow flame Niger uromastyx
1.1.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.1 Ball pythons
1.1.0 pastel Columbian boa
0.1.0 Guyana redtail boa

Other than everting the stomach, and the slight appearence of of a slight bloating there were no other overt signs in the Atelopus.
Rapid death is a fairly common result (can occur in a matter of hours) of aeromonad infections and they do not always show the "red leg" symptoms.

Ed