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Margaritae

madmatt Dec 19, 2004 04:11 PM

Hey guys,

I am currently on Isla Margarita.
I am asking around for zoos or museums that may have a preserved or captive specimen of D.C. Margaritae I could snap a pic of.
I know this is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
It seem like perfect climate if there was ever to be a cribo especially since I understand this island is way out of the hurricane zone.
Also, besides ¨zipolota¨are there any other known spanish names or nicknames for cribos?
Also, while were at it, the spanish names for mussarana as well?
Hopefully I can contribute a photo from the museo or zoo.
Take care guys
Matt

Replies (5)

spilotes87 Dec 19, 2004 04:23 PM

"Mussurana" IS the spanish name for clelia clelia, well at least thats what Ticos call them. good luck!
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Doug T Dec 19, 2004 04:56 PM

You have to hang out on Isla Margarita. Carefull you don't get a sunburn

Cribo,Mussurana, Zipilota are all the names I know.

Doug T

>>Hey guys,
>>
>>I am currently on Isla Margarita.
>>I am asking around for zoos or museums that may have a preserved or captive specimen of D.C. Margaritae I could snap a pic of.
>>I know this is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
>>It seem like perfect climate if there was ever to be a cribo especially since I understand this island is way out of the hurricane zone.
>>Also, besides ¨zipolota¨are there any other known spanish names or nicknames for cribos?
>>Also, while were at it, the spanish names for mussarana as well?
>>Hopefully I can contribute a photo from the museo or zoo.
>>Take care guys
>>Matt

oldherper Dec 19, 2004 07:05 PM

Here I am cleaning cages and it's 30 degrees outside and trying to snow, and YOU"RE off hunting Cribos. Bum.

D.m.margaritae is known to science from only 1 (one) specimen. You aren't the first to scour that island looking for them. I hope you find one....I don't think the chances are good, but I'm glad you're out there poking around. Obviously if there was one, there had to be more.

Keep us posted and let us know what all herps you do find. Take lots of pictures.

Good luck and have fun!
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matthewkot Dec 19, 2004 07:35 PM

I went there about a year ago. Awesome place isn't it? I took pictures to ask around but of course left them at the hotel anytime I went somewhere remote.

If you want help looking for them, I would take a day trip to La Restinga. It's a protected park consisting of mostly saltwater mangrove forests. The tours are conducted by old-timers on boat that are very much like the ones at Disney's jungle boat cruises. Most of the old boat captains have spent their entire lives on the island. If anyone would know, I think they would. There is also a nature center somewhere though I'm not sure exactly where it is.

The reported cribo came from the west side of the island where the climate is very dry. It looks very much like south Texas. La Restinga is located at the point of the island where the west and east ends are connected by a very small spit of land. I think asking those boat captains and any ranchers on the west side would be the key. There are also some freshwater marshes near Juan Griego that looked like couperi habitat. Good luck.

If you make it out to Los Roques you'll be amazed by the large number of lizards on the islands. They're some species of teid and they're EVERYWHERE.

Have fun, and be sure to report back.

Matt Kot

WW Dec 20, 2004 05:27 AM

Don't forget to check village schools and ask to speak to the science teacher. It's actually quite amazing what some school teachers have stashed away in jars in a classroom, and they are often very pleased to show their goodies off to foreigners with a genuine interest. I remember doing a tour of schools in Ecuador a few years back, and coming up with a number of interesting pickles.

If you find anything, don't forget to take lots of photos and do some scale counts!

Cheers,

WW
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