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Another Spider Question (or maybe it's a morphs question) ....

toshamc Dec 19, 2004 11:02 PM

Why is it that males are more expensive than females, is it because you have a better chance at producing more spiders if bred with a regular female or is there another reason. I've noticed that sometimes the females are more expensive and sometimes it's the males depending of course on how old and the type of morph. So I'm wondering if it's a genetics thing or what? Thanks.
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Tosha

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survey33 Dec 19, 2004 11:15 PM

Males are more right now because you can breed the male to several normal females and make alot more spiders, rather than raising a female (for a longer period) and producing only one clutch.

Another contributing factor is the genetics. Spider appears to be a dominant trait with no visible difference between heterozygous and homozygous forms, ie. no super spider. This is in contrast to incomplete-dominant traits such as pastel where there is a difference between the homozygous and heterozygous forms, making the female more desirable. Dave

Greg Graziani Dec 20, 2004 06:58 AM

Why in some mutations are the males more valuable and in others the females are more valuable? When a mutation is first proven genetic the males are more valuable to investors because they can be bred to multiple females. As more and more people start working with these mutations and they start crossing them with other mutations to create new things the pay scale flips and the females become more valuable. There are a couple of reasons for this one is supply and demand. Let’s use the Pastel Jungle as an example. The first Pastel Jungles followed suite and were priced in the same bracket as the Albinos in 1997 at $7,500.00 for both males and females. In 1999 the first Super Pastel Jungle was produced and the price for Pastel Jungles went to $10,000.00 for males and $8,000.00 for females. Producing new mutations tends to increase or maintain the pricing of the base mutations. After the Super Pastel, Spider Pastel, Spider Super Pastel, Pinstripe Pastel, Woma Tiger Pastel, Pewter Pastel, Platinum Pastel & Mojave Pastel the female Pastel Jungles became more valuable to most breeders because they need multiple females to cross into there other mutations. This also makes it more affordable for new breeders to get started because they are more interested in males when they start there breeding projects. The second reason that breeders price there females higher than the males is that in most cases 1 male breeds 5-8 females and the breeders need to hold back multiple females to progress in there breeding projects. After seeing what could be done with the Pastel Jungles and the new market for high priced ball pythons, breeders started pricing females higher than males right off the bat.

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toshamc Dec 20, 2004 10:57 AM

Thanks.

>>Tosha
>>
>>1.1.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy)
>>0.1.0 Siberian Husky (Kita)
>>0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
>>0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope)
>>5.4.2 Fish (1,2,3,4...)
>>0.0.1 Frog rescued from pool skimmer
>>0.0.2 Lizards rescued from pool skimmer

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Tosha

1.1.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy)
0.1.0 Siberian Husky (Kita)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope)
5.4.2 Fish (1,2,3,4...)
0.0.1 Frog rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.2 Lizards rescued from pool skimmer

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