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Blizzard kingsnake question!!!

Atlas511 Dec 21, 2004 12:26 AM

I was told that breeding a BLizzard x Blizzard will result in weak babies and small cluctches. any input will help i would rather not deal with hets unless i must.

Replies (11)

shannon brown Dec 21, 2004 12:46 AM

I have been breeding a pair of blizzards together for several years now with great luck?
I sold a pair of my babies to Kerby two years ago and I think he will be breeding them this next year.

shannon

Atlas511 Dec 21, 2004 12:52 AM

So no problems at all? did you run into any problems? have you dealed with hets? Im only wondering because i dont want to screw my self and get hets instead or blizzards!

shannon brown Dec 21, 2004 01:03 AM

I just had the one pair of blizzards and never even had any hets?
My clutches were normal (around 7-9) and the babies came out strong and eating?

shannon

Atlas511 Dec 21, 2004 01:14 AM

thanks alot i am getting a pair of blizzars next week instead of hets!! thanks again

metalpest Dec 22, 2004 10:57 PM

That may be refering to imbreeding. All blizzards are related to the original albino and melanistic specimens, making them imbreed. The more imbreed, the weaker they may be. Outcrossing is a good idea, but I would do it myself if I were you. Cross the blizzard with a normal, then breed one of the offspring back to the blizzard. That will introduce new blood to the line. Since blizzards are two traits, you will get double het for blizzard so one in 8 will come out blizzard. Thats the way it is for cal king blizzards, which I assumed you were talking about.

Kerby... Dec 24, 2004 06:08 PM

** All blizzards are related to the original albino and melanistic specimens, making them imbreed. **

Not true. There have been many different albinos bred to melanistics to produce the Blizzards. Two years ago I bred my Albino High White male to a Mendota female. This next spring ('05) I will be producing Blizzards that aren't related to any Blizzards out there. I'm sure others have done the same thing. Two years ago I also bred an Albino High White to a Blizzard, furthering the new blood.

**The more imbreed, the weaker they may be.**

"May be" is the key word, inbreeding DOES NOT necessarily mean a weaker product.

**Since blizzards are two traits, you will get double het for blizzard so one in 8 will come out blizzard.**

Actually 1/16 will show both traits from double het parents.

Kerby...

Atlas511 Dec 24, 2004 11:26 PM

What exactally produces Blizzards and my question was should i breed a Blizzard to a het Blizzard or Blizzard X Blizzard?

metalpest Dec 25, 2004 02:57 PM

Im sorry, 1 in 16 is what I meant.

As for the unrelated blizzards, you cant cross them back to each other. The different albino strains are incompatibale from what I know and people still often buy siblings and breed those, and they sell pairs of the siblings and they get breed again, and so on. I dont think I will be able to cross your unrelated ones with other blizzards, I think melanistic with double het for albino will emerge. I am only aware of two albino cal king traits which are not compatible, if there are more I would be interested to hear about them.

Kerby... Dec 25, 2004 08:48 PM

**As for the unrelated blizzards, you cant cross them back to each other.**

Not true. It is the same amel gene. Unless someone used Lavender with Melanistic, which I will be doing soon.

**I dont think I will be able to cross your unrelated ones with other blizzards,**

Why not?? The same genes.

Kerby...

metalpest Dec 25, 2004 10:17 PM

What I meant was I thought they were all different genes. From what I knew, all the albinos that are compatable were related to the original wild caught. I havent heard of a second albino being found and being compatable with albinos already in captivity. Are yours outcrossed, or are their two lines for one albino strain?

Kerby... Dec 26, 2004 11:47 AM

There have been numerous wild-caught albino cal kings. The first one I remember seeing was when Joan Embry was on the Johnny Carson Show in 1971. A very RARE snake back then LOL! Albinism in the wild occures more often than one thinks. It's just that the survival rate is obviously low. Now that herping is more popular than ever, more cool stuff is being found every year. Something new every year.

Kerby...

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